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Bettie

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52. How many of both parties are

Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:31 PM

Nov 9

owned by the health care industry?

Far too many. It would hurt the bottom line of too many people with power to have a public option or to actually deliver health CARE rather than insurance.

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At this point in the shutdown, Democrats need to loudly call for Medicare for All. [View all] OrlandoDem2 Nov 9 OP

I just want to save Medicare.... FarPoint Nov 9 #1

Of course we save Medicare/Medicaid. We also start beating the drum for universal care now! flashman13 Nov 9 #28

THIS THIS THIS pat_k Nov 9 #33

Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia Nov 9 #54

Amen! Mysterian Nov 9 #2

A big yes! jaymac Nov 9 #3

Maybe as a negotiating tactic TheFarseer Nov 9 #4

If not now, when? We have GOT to start talking about it. hatrack Nov 9 #19

I said when TheFarseer Nov 9 #20

Raise the stakes pfitz59 Nov 9 #5

doubt they will ever admit markie Nov 9 #11

I believe the moment has now arrived, to make a loud argument for Medicare for All. Ars Longa Nov 9 #6

I agree. Now convince the centrists thats what we want. Emile Nov 9 #7

You mean like the ones who are also owners/investors of insurance companies? OldBaldy1701E Nov 9 #9

great. rampartd Nov 9 #8

Broadway Joe can always find a home in reverse mortgages. Xavier Breath Nov 9 #17

Reverse 50-year mortgages? William Seger Nov 9 #23

I asked Mike Flood (NE-repug) Rver Nov 9 #10

it's always amazing what repukes can afford, and what they cannot Skittles Nov 9 #51

100% EarthFirst Nov 9 #12

The mistake was putting an expiration date on it to begin with MichMan Nov 9 #13

That wasn't a mistake. That was the only way. marybourg Nov 9 #16

Agree! I've even seen hardcore MAGA call for the same... OneGrassRoot Nov 9 #14

Indeed. Time for some kind of public option... Wounded Bear Nov 9 #15

They should, but they won't. eom Autumn Nov 9 #18

I am forced to vehemently agree. Hugin Nov 9 #21

I have to agree Samael13 Nov 9 #22

K&R! Grumpy Old Guy Nov 9 #24

DURec leftstreet Nov 9 #25

Bad news this morning -- very few doctors in northern NM Ponietz Nov 9 #26

i want to save a lot of the good programs. AllaN01Bear Nov 9 #27

Not unless you say Real Medicare for All delisen Nov 9 #29

+1 Both parties are waiting til it's completely privatized leftstreet Nov 9 #31

Getting rid of MA needs to be a big campaign promise in 2028 MichMan Nov 9 #32

Many young people think Medicare For All is free leftstreet Nov 9 #34

And that's after paying into it for 40 years before becoming eligible MichMan Nov 9 #35

This Gen Xer is about to be paying 700 a month with a big deductible Unwind Your Mind Nov 9 #36

Thank-you. From some of the posts it is pretty clear that some people don't realize that original Medicare isn't free, lostincalifornia Nov 9 #38

+1 leftstreet Nov 9 #40

I know, if only. lostincalifornia Nov 9 #41

You don't mention that the aca passed through reconciliation were only 51 votes were needed questionseverything Nov 9 #42

and how was that going to happen when the Democrats in the Senate had at least 5-6 Democrats who refused to vote for lostincalifornia Nov 9 #48

59-6 53 which was is still over 50, which is all reconciliation required questionseverything Nov 10 #62

Medicare for All area51 Nov 9 #45

Should've started demanding tbe second they tried to repeal obamacare. pat_k Nov 9 #30

You realize it wasn't just the republicans we had to fight for that, but there were Democrats who refused to agree to lostincalifornia Nov 9 #39

Vermont can't run a deficit like the United States can questionseverything Nov 9 #43

By sticking future generations with the bills? MichMan Nov 9 #47

My point is that it will NEVER happen if more of them aren't out there making the case, LOUDLY. pat_k Nov 9 #55

Well, it sure as heck won't happen as long as people continue to do what they did in 2000, 2016, and 2024. lostincalifornia Nov 9 #57

No healthcare for profit kimbutgar Nov 9 #37

All of our issues should be repeated constantly gulliver Nov 9 #44

When I was watching MSNBC this morning and Eric Swalwell was on - they showed Trump tweets about not giving money Nanjeanne Nov 9 #46

With dental and vision! nt Javaman Nov 9 #49

Please stop. That won't happen. We need the ACA. Demsrule86 Nov 9 #50

How many of both parties are Bettie Nov 9 #52

We don't have House Senate or presidency so Demsrule86 Nov 9 #53

We got pretty close to the public option and I wish Obama would have maybe went yourout Nov 9 #56

Traitor Joe Lieberman threatened to blow the whole deal up if the PO was included. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 9 #58

Medicare for all ...... Yes !!! Trueblue1968 Nov 9 #59

Now more than ever we need the Democrats to demand Medicare for All. OrlandoDem2 Nov 9 #60

Why would they call for something they don't actually want? BlueTsunami2018 Nov 9 #61