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RockRaven

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1. The circle cannot be squared -- if this vote to end the shutdown is right then
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:08 AM
Nov 2025

some number of the votes which allowed the shutdown to happen and proceed were wrong, because the nominal thing being saved ultimately was not... and defenders of today's action are saying it could not be, in which case the shutdown is not defensible.

One can only defend today's action by throwing yesterdays' actions under the bus. No matter which way one tries to spin it, this was botched and that botching is worthy of critique.

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The circle cannot be squared -- if this vote to end the shutdown is right then RockRaven Nov 2025 #1
I disagree. pat_k Nov 2025 #4
Alternatively one can look at the situation as having tried something that didn't work EdmondDantes_ Nov 2025 #25
100% !! WELL SAID ! (and it really NEEDED to be said !) stopdiggin Nov 2025 #2
Very well said, bigtree. Sogo Nov 2025 #3
K&R nt PunkinPi Nov 2025 #5
Then why even have the shutdown? Envirogal Nov 2025 #6
Not fighting helps us win nothing orangecrush Nov 2025 #7
The problem is that Democrats don't demonstrate Baitball Blogger Nov 2025 #8
My feelings, exactly Pototan Nov 2025 #9
Completely disagree angrychair Nov 2025 #10
What did we get for our 40 days? Billsdaughter Nov 2025 #11
How long will Trump spike the football in our face? dem4decades Nov 2025 #26
It was a REPUBLICAN SHUTDOWN. The only Emile Nov 2025 #12
. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #13
Thanks to centrists they couldn't pass a public option, now Emile Nov 2025 #14
You've got it all wrong Orrex Nov 2025 #16
Patience, grasshopper. All is going exactly as it should go. This isn't a Law & Order episode. And what are YOU Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #17
+1 demmiblue Nov 2025 #18
+1 leftstreet Nov 2025 #23
Well, that's certainly one way to spin it. Orrex Nov 2025 #15
K&R mcar Nov 2025 #19
Say It Loud! MineralMan Nov 2025 #20
K&R betsuni Nov 2025 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #22
But Schumer himself welcomes GOPers leftstreet Nov 2025 #24
Tell that to the crazy 8. nt yaesu Nov 2025 #27
Who needs a majority when you rule like a monarchy C_U_L8R Nov 2025 #28
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