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OrwellwasRight

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84. The only bright side of all this is that it
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:44 AM
Nov 2025

Exposes the fundamental flaw of the ACA, which is that it was just a bill to guarantee insurance companies more customers. It was never going to effectively control costs or ensure that every American could access health care (as opposed to health insurance). The healthcare sector is a market in failure. It does not work, and I defy anyone to prove that it does.

It is past time for a real public health care system, and maybe we will eventually get it.

As Churchill said, you can count on Americans to do the right thing, once they’ve tried everything else.

In the meantime, people will continue to struggle and suffer and go into debt and forgo lifesaving care.

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ACA Subsidies [View all] angrychair Nov 2025 OP
Certainly a possibility. But there are a number of GOPers who were getting heat in their districts to do Silent Type Nov 2025 #1
It's not angrychair Nov 2025 #2
That's not true for those with original ACA. If their premiums quadrupled, they were getting enhanced subsidies. Silent Type Nov 2025 #10
Without the subsidies MontanaMama Nov 2025 #3
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Depends on what state you are in and if you are likely to use much healthcare. Mine goes from $20 to over $1000. Doodley Nov 2025 #9
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Are you trolling? Doodley Nov 2025 #14
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You joined yesterday And calling people trolls? Happy Hoosier Nov 2025 #20
No , he's trolling. Bobstandard Nov 2025 #26
Oh it's trolling alright. MontanaMama Nov 2025 #18
They joined yesterday. iemanja Nov 2025 #22
Short lived most likely. n/t MontanaMama Nov 2025 #25
Suddenly I'm craving pizza. StarryNite Nov 2025 #56
And this isn't the only post where they're doing it.🤔 ShazzieB Nov 2025 #73
LOL Skittles Nov 2025 #19
People on the high end don't use ACA iemanja Nov 2025 #21
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Putting faith in Trump isn't wise iemanja Nov 2025 #32
The ACA helped those with pre-existing conditions mzmolly Nov 2025 #50
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You are out of touch with healthcare costs mzmolly Nov 2025 #61
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The GOP defunded it in the big ugly bill iemanja Nov 2025 #63
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Yes, they didn't extend them iemanja Nov 2025 #65
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Which wealthy people get subsidies? iemanja Nov 2025 #67
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That is less than the median US income iemanja Nov 2025 #69
"working" is relative rampartd Nov 2025 #79
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Well bless your heart. MontanaMama Nov 2025 #17
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That is not true. Sparkly Nov 2025 #38
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"Trump Renews Attacks on Obamacare in New Push Over Government Shutdown" Sparkly Nov 2025 #40
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"...or something." Cirsium Nov 2025 #58
Look at this. The guy who joined yesterday calling us liars Bobstandard Nov 2025 #29
I am so sorry MM angrychair Nov 2025 #6
Thanks MontanaMama Nov 2025 #30
I'm so sorry Bettie Nov 2025 #92
There won't be subsidies anymore Bettie Nov 2025 #5
Exactly. angrychair Nov 2025 #7
And they know who will Bettie Nov 2025 #8
Correct. This is about more than healthcare. We have a terrorist in the White House who is systematically Doodley Nov 2025 #12
And holding American citizens hostage. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #33
These two met with Thune last Tuesday JustAnotherGen Nov 2025 #88
I don't see how we can think they'll even vote mvd Nov 2025 #13
People will know who voted to extend subsidies mzmolly Nov 2025 #15
You really think people know how Reps vote? edhopper Nov 2025 #23
We have to let them mzmolly Nov 2025 #44
Mine is going to increase from $194 a month to $1,200 BigmanPigman Nov 2025 #28
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Well, it IS a fact! BigmanPigman Nov 2025 #35
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You think that is "well off" in CA? karynnj Nov 2025 #43
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Well in the olden days before health insurance was privatized maybe. Hope22 Nov 2025 #55
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Small business has been held hostage to the health insurance industry since the early eighties. Hope22 Nov 2025 #59
You don't seem to understand the point of the law iemanja Nov 2025 #70
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You need to stop. Seriously. ShazzieB Nov 2025 #74
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Oh, so THAT's what you think you're doing. ShazzieB Nov 2025 #78
3,600.00 mzmolly Nov 2025 #46
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That is absurd. mzmolly Nov 2025 #48
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You are ignorant on the subject of the discussion mzmolly Nov 2025 #52
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Fox viewer? mzmolly Nov 2025 #54
Oh. My. God. ShazzieB Nov 2025 #76
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Oh, ffs. ShazzieB Nov 2025 #81
Nobody takes it but "ghetto docs"??? OrwellwasRight Nov 2025 #82
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That's not an answer. OrwellwasRight Nov 2025 #86
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Did grok write this for you? ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2025 #37
Republican politicos in MAGA America should now fear the wrath of their spurned followers. ChicagoTeamster Nov 2025 #42
I have one family member and one friend..... TheRealNorth Nov 2025 #60
The concession is reportedly that the ACA bill sent to the floor will be one drafted and negotiated by Senate Democrats pat_k Nov 2025 #72
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And then they'll promptly vote against it. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2025 #89
The only bright side of all this is that it OrwellwasRight Nov 2025 #84
If it wasn't for Centrists, we could of had a public option Emile Nov 2025 #90
By the way, a public "option" is centrist. OrwellwasRight Nov 2025 #91
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