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Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:22 PM Nov 2025

Watch and appreciate how Democrats are governing to pressure republicans [View all]

...for whatever individual motive, eight senators, Dems and independents, exercised a political decision to join with republicans to temporarily fund the government.

We can fight about that among ourselves, endlessly, as it's clear so many people who like to flame and ignite Democrats against each other to deflect from or avoid the vexing task of actually dislodging and moving republicans are wont to do.

But maybe, instead, consider the political landscape that's emerged now that the only hook republicans and the WH had available to divert from their sophistry that Democrats voting against their CR meant they couldn't advance their budget on their own votes; either through a simple majority eliminating or neutering the filibuster requirement for the budget; or with a simple majority in reconciliation.

Thing is, putting aside that Trump has to agree to sign the thing, there's still debating and voting to be done over this compromise looming ahead in the House. And let's make this clear, the vast majority of Democrats in the House, as well as in the Senate that just passed this agreement, including the two Democratic leaders, are still strongly against the resolution.

Moreover, the political conversation and debate is now firmly on Americans' health care costs and the republicans' efforts to make life harder and more expensive for all Americans, not just Democrats. That's a direct result of the two Democratic leaders' relentless drumbeat about the ACA tax credits and their transition over to defending SNAP benefits.

Remember, both of those were already cut viciously by the republican budget and indifference and inactivity to address those concerns before the shutdown. Dem leaders and others have firmly established who is responsible for these things which are hurting Americans and the election victories demonstrate that political progress in bring Americans along with us, all the way through to showing up and voting.

That's no small measure of progress for an opposition party.

Even more interesting is there's still the swearing in of Raúl Grijalva's daughter pending, ostensibly held up by Maga Mike Johnson to avoid a vote on releasing the Epstein files. Now the onus is back on republicans to reopen the House of Representatives they've deliberately kept in recess, with their republican members on vacation for nearly seven weeks now.

...here's Leader Jeffries putting it in perspective today:

"I certainly believe that Senate Democrats, the overwhelming majority of Senate Democrats led by Chuck Schumer, have waged a valiant fight over the last seven weeks, defeating the partisan Republican spending bill 14 or 15 different times, week after week after week, and continue to oppose this effort of passing legislation that does not address the Republican health care crisis by extending the Affordable Care Act tax credits.

But the fight is getting ready to shift back to the House where we're going to work hard to hold the Republicans accountable. All of these loudmouths on the House Republican conference side who's been saying for the last several weeks that we have to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits. Now is their chance.

This week they have to come back from their seven week prolonged taxpayer funded Republican vacation. They can no longer hide. They can no longer hide. Mike Johnson apparently still hiding. Refused to even answer a single question today. That's extraordinary.

But they're not going to be able to hide this week when they return from their vacation.

Speaking of the House, uh, Speaker Johnson has not committed holding a vote on subsidies even though the Senate agreement would have them do so. What do you say to that? And then also, what do you think that would do to the relationship between Republicans and Democrats on the House?

Well, the failure of Republicans to address the health care crisis that they've created in the House and in the Senate is no surprise because House and Senate Republicans multiple times this year have been given an opportunity to vote to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits. And multiple times this year already in the context of the debate around their one big ugly bill, they voted against unanimously voted against extending the Affordable Care Act tax credits.

So over the last several weeks, it's become increasingly difficult from the for them to hide from their position as it relates to the healthcare of the American people. And, House Democrats, joined by our colleagues in the Senate, we're not going to stop the fight. We're going to continue to lean into the fight over the next few days and beyond until we actually get an outcome that makes life better for workingclass Americans."


watch full presser:




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What became of that FSA account proposal from the GOP SSJVegeta Nov 2025 #1
"Republican health care crisis" mzmolly Nov 2025 #2
and I'm sure they are losing sleep over millions losing healthcare LOL. nt yaesu Nov 2025 #5
They should lose sleep over losing mzmolly Nov 2025 #10
They aren't in danger of losing their Bettie Nov 2025 #22
All Republican districts are mzmolly Nov 2025 #25
Most of them are Bettie Nov 2025 #31
Time will tell. mzmolly Nov 2025 #34
They don't care...no consequences NotHardly Nov 2025 #43
I disagree. mzmolly Nov 2025 #50
well, they can slop all the lipstick on the shutdown cave pig they want but at the end of the day is still a pig. nt yaesu Nov 2025 #3
should have voted in a majority bigtree Nov 2025 #12
Even when we had the majority, they voted for an expiration date on the enhanced subsidies MichMan Nov 2025 #39
it was a pandemic response, not a straightforward subsidy effort bigtree Nov 2025 #44
Republicans are pigs. mzmolly Nov 2025 #13
Democrats that continually cave to fascists deserve to be flamed LR3 Nov 2025 #4
THIS! berksdem Nov 2025 #6
the vast majority of the party disagreed. bigtree Nov 2025 #46
Oh please LR3 Nov 2025 #54
Use this to show people exactly how evil Republicans are Freddie Nov 2025 #7
If the Democrats are going to go along with this it's not just showing that the Republicans are the ones Autumn Nov 2025 #16
So we totally give up, lose the midterms and install trump as president for life Freddie Nov 2025 #17
Democratic leadership gave up. We did what was required of us and more. nt Autumn Nov 2025 #18
wrong. they put the ball squarely in the repubs court. edisdead Nov 2025 #32
Why would the democrats own it? edisdead Nov 2025 #30
They caved and the republicans will show no mercy. CentralMass Nov 2025 #8
How was the shutdown going to change that? edisdead Nov 2025 #28
We will never know. CentralMass Nov 2025 #45
they still have the majority of Democrats standing against them bigtree Nov 2025 #47
I appreciate you and others trying to be the voice of reason here, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #9
it was a shitty deal bigtree Nov 2025 #24
Do you honestly believe that Krasnov gab13by13 Nov 2025 #33
we got a dead rotten pig in a bloody dripping poke rampartd Nov 2025 #35
I think this is dangerous leftstreet Nov 2025 #11
right now the demand is an extension of ACA subsudies as millions of Americans health costs double bigtree Nov 2025 #20
Sadly BigMin28 Nov 2025 #21
Single payer isn't even in thenpicture edisdead Nov 2025 #27
Restoring the Obamacare subsidies is also not going to happen. gab13by13 Nov 2025 #36
I brought it up BigMin28 Nov 2025 #41
I think you are as right on this as you were on Garland. Autumn Nov 2025 #14
Yep. Exactly. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #40
I appreciate your positivity berksdem Nov 2025 #15
your reply is unserious bigtree Nov 2025 #29
oh no, i read it a few times actually... berksdem Nov 2025 #48
I wanna be positive too, but I think that's cockeyed optimisim. Happy Hoosier Nov 2025 #19
Rec X 1,000,000!! Sogo Nov 2025 #23
thank you for this bigtree edisdead Nov 2025 #26
Obviously Mikie Sherrill can't see it either gab13by13 Nov 2025 #38
Capitulation is the opposite of pressure but I guess the corporatists & centrists need to spin this as a victory somehow LonePirate Nov 2025 #37
Thank You csusan Nov 2025 #42
That was a very thoughtful post. Quiet Em Nov 2025 #49
Jeffries will be a great Speaker! mcar Nov 2025 #51
" we're going to work hard to hold the Republicans accountable" IcyPeas Nov 2025 #52
So...will this"victory" get SNAP benefits sent out? synni Nov 2025 #53
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