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SamuelTheThird

(512 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:06 PM Nov 10

The Real Reason Dems Caved on Shutdown Will Make You Want to Scream [View all]

Really not sure I buy this but

https://newrepublic.com/post/202948/real-reason-democrats-caved-shutdown-obamacare-midterms

Those senators included Dick Durbin, Catherine Cortez Masto, Jacky Rosen, Maggie Hassan, Jeanne Shaheen, John Fetterman, and Tim Kaine, as well as independent Angus King. All eight lawmakers are either retiring or won’t face another election for several years, making the alleged behind-the-scenes rationale for the crumbling stalemate even more asinine.

More than a dozen House and Senate Democrats expressed anxiety that actually preserving premium subsidies for the Affordable Care Act’s enhanced premium tax credits through their shutdown demands could strip them of a winning issue in the coming midterms, reported The New York Times. Their secondary anxiety involved the powerful Senate filibuster, fearing that conservatives might actually bow to Donald Trump’s demands to ax the disruptive legislative tool.

“The political logic of the shutdown fight was inverted: If Democrats got the tax credits extended—if they ‘won’—they would be solving a huge electoral problem for Republicans,” reported the Times. “If Republicans successfully allowed the tax credits to expire—if they ‘won’—they would be handing Democrats a cudgel with which to beat them in the election

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Trust No One OC375 Nov 10 #1
My guess is that our leaders spent most of the last two weeks deciding which Senators could best stand the backlash Silent Type Nov 10 #2
Yeah, I was kind of thinking that as well. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Nov 10 #5
Absolutely they do, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 10 #8
"Held to their principles" BlueTsunami2018 Nov 10 #17
Is this press conference enough for you? Sogo Nov 10 #3
Can you just summarize what's pertinent SamuelTheThird Nov 10 #6
Edited: I've added Jeffries' excellent comments below: Sogo Nov 10 #7
I'd like to, but I'm often NOT in a place FoxNewsSucks Nov 10 #10
Read my entire post. I "caved" and added a summary of Jeffries' excellent comments on the Dem vote. Sogo Nov 10 #11
Read my entire post. I "caved" and added a summary of Jeffries' excellent comments on the Dem vote. Sogo Nov 10 #14
Post removed Post removed Nov 10 #13
Reccing because it's an interesting theory senseandsensibility Nov 10 #4
People twisting themselves trying to come up with an explanation Raven123 Nov 10 #9
Thanks for posting. I agree with this logic. Once the new rates hit, voters will freak. mjvpi Nov 10 #12
They'll have to come back into session and vote on it, or it won't end. Sogo Nov 10 #15
Fetterman campaigned on opposing shutdowns Jose Garcia Nov 10 #16
"...preserving premium subsidies...could strip them of a winning issue in the coming midterms...." Rob H. Nov 10 #18
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