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Sympthsical

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18. I asked friends in California politics about this one
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 11:12 AM
Nov 2025

Because it actually was a little bit of a surprise the younger Pelosi isn't running for the seat. The long understanding was the Speaker would stay long enough to smooth the path for her daughter.

But there was one surprise this year. Scott Wiener went full insubordination and announced his run before Pelosi announced retirement. That was something that is just not done. Yes, fringe candidates have always run, but an actual Democrat of weight and substance who is charismatic and popular?

So that was considered a little bit of a shove, and Wiener seems to think he had support enough to challenge Pelosi's machine.

And then the calculations changed.

Through the grapevine (and my friends are higher campaign people in Bay Area politics who work on S.F. and Oakland mayoral and state legislature races), is that there was push back against Christine and the idea dynasty politics would go against a popular - and gay - progressive in San Francisco. The LGBT community is itching for some representation in one of the most LGBT districts in the nation, and the claws would've come out on this one.

Which kind of would've been academically interesting. A big gay civil war, lol.

There was just no taste for this fight once it was known Wiener was not going to bow before dynastic politics. The expectation was Pelosi would retire and knees would be bent for Christine. That didn't happen.

So, maybe Governor in ten years? Or maybe she doesn't want it. Who knows. But Wiener upended the apple cart on this one. God love him for it. And this does open a door, because others might see more of an opportunity now that the Pelosis are out. And it will be interesting to see if they endorse Wiener in the primary, because again, he kind of shoved them.

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The choice is ours. Joinfortmill Nov 2025 #1
I used to believe that. Mr.WeRP Nov 2025 #3
Oh, lord, here we go. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #36
Yup, here we go. Mr.WeRP Nov 2025 #44
"My candidate cannot lose, they can only be screwed over by everyone in a grand conspiracy." W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #49
Stop mocking Secretary Clinton. She was screwed by Russia. We support Democrats here. Stop with the nonsense Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2025 #58
Yeah, hence it wasn't a fucking conspiracy theory since IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #60
No. enough Nov 2025 #2
Nancy Pelosi was a Nepo/legacy politician and she is one of the all time greats. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #4
Like making millions in stock trades on information only Congress has? Mr.WeRP Nov 2025 #6
You don't have to be a nepo baby to be corrupt. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #13
Oh, how so? Mr.WeRP Nov 2025 #17
There's even an ETF out there called NANC fujiyamasan Nov 2025 #32
It depends. Pelosi was a very effective congressperson and leader. Her daughter *may* be as well. CousinIT Nov 2025 #5
She was a good leader, I agree. But she also created major issues Mr.WeRP Nov 2025 #8
Can't argue with that. If Congress had any balls and wasn't on the take all the time... CousinIT Nov 2025 #14
Nobody is pushing anyone RandySF Nov 2025 #7
She is running for State Senate in CA. That's significant Mr.WeRP Nov 2025 #9
So what? RandySF Nov 2025 #12
So being the daughter of a renowned politician is credibility and credentials? Mr.WeRP Nov 2025 #20
If people spent half as much time actually researching these candidates as they do conjuring up conspiracies... W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #38
I'm sure the ballot will have choices that better suit you. Deuxcents Nov 2025 #28
I asked friends in California politics about this one Sympthsical Nov 2025 #18
That is excellent to hear and it gives me hope. Mr.WeRP Nov 2025 #33
Thanks for the insight fujiyamasan Nov 2025 #34
Connie is more progressive than Scott. RandySF Nov 2025 #48
Yeah, that is part of the opportunities Sympthsical Nov 2025 #52
Scott is more moderate than people realize RandySF Nov 2025 #47
Honestly, that is probably his biggest weakness Sympthsical Nov 2025 #53
I'm surprised - I've been hearing for years that Christine was going to inherit her mother's seat - although I always Midwestern Democrat Nov 2025 #42
Yep. I was literally telling people this last week Sympthsical Nov 2025 #55
HELL, NO!!!!! cornball 24 Nov 2025 #10
So you are saying you really did not like lapfog_1 Nov 2025 #11
Lol how about that RFK Jr?! Mr.WeRP Nov 2025 #16
I'm sorry, what elected office has RFK, Jr ( Insane worm brain ) lapfog_1 Nov 2025 #24
Gee, it's almost like we should evaluate the candidates on a candidate-by-candidate basis... W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #39
I question why Rebl2 Nov 2025 #25
Stefany Shaheen opposes the deal her mom made muriel_volestrangler Nov 2025 #15
Al Gore Jr. was the son of a Senator, Al Gore Sr... NNadir Nov 2025 #19
"These women have a right to run as they were raised around first class Democrats." Rights that depend on bloodlines WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2025 #21
Good luck with getting the Constitutional amendment banning the children of politicians from citizenship. NNadir Nov 2025 #27
Who said anything about banning? What I object to is believing people have an inherent "right" to run *in addition to WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2025 #51
I believe I understand the connotation despite the wiggles. NNadir Nov 2025 #56
Not when they have to win the nomination and then the general. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #41
Name recognition has a lot of influence with low information voters MichMan Nov 2025 #22
I don't give a shit. nt LexVegas Nov 2025 #23
"No Kings" also means no royalty Justice Nov 2025 #26
More power to them. riversedge Nov 2025 #29
It depends on what kind of persons they are and they're principles. Ping Tung Nov 2025 #30
OT: Lord Acton was an interesting figure jfz9580m Nov 2025 #45
Orwell fought WITH communists and anarchists against the fascists in the Spanish Civil War. Ping Tung Nov 2025 #57
I don't like coronations, but if they earn it and convince me they'll represent me vanessa_ca Nov 2025 #31
That's pretty common in politics. Ocelot II Nov 2025 #35
How about Grijalva ? JI7 Nov 2025 #37
First, these women are not being pushed. They are running on their own accord Quiet Em Nov 2025 #40
I think JustAnotherGen Nov 2025 #43
I think the idea of rejecting a candidate solely due to blood Torchlight Nov 2025 #46
Shaheen and Pelosi aren't the first politicians to be succeeded by their children and won't be the last Vogon_Glory Nov 2025 #50
If they are qualified, I don't care. Raven123 Nov 2025 #54
It happens... Mike Nelson Nov 2025 #59
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