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Buckeyeblue

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109. While I'm disappointed, i wonder if Democrats looked into the abyss that is named Trump
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:36 PM
Nov 2025

And realized he was never going to cut a deal to reopen the government. He's a lame duck. He doesn't need the public's support. He doesn't care if people suffer. He doesn't care if the airlines go bankrupt (his billionaire friends will buy them for pennies on the dollar).

And I would say there are enough Republicans that are too chickenshit to do anything about it. Or maybe they are just as evil.

I don't know.

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Then what was the point of the shutdown? leftstreet Nov 2025 #1
the point was to illustrate the republicans lack of ability to govern edisdead Nov 2025 #10
LOL people seemed to already know that leftstreet Nov 2025 #17
21 million at NO KINGS BigmanPigman Nov 2025 #69
I was at both local No Kings rallies and 90% of the people driving by were supporting us. OMGWTF Nov 2025 #76
I've been to over 30 protests during tRump's 2 terms BigmanPigman Nov 2025 #84
I do not beleive that 21 million number at all. It is based off one poll and then some some very unsound projections and Celerity Nov 2025 #104
Was UT_democrat Nov 2025 #80
Excuses, excuses. choie Nov 2025 #87
To show the American people who's actually fighting for them, and who's actively fighting to hurt them NickB79 Nov 2025 #11
I think you've got that ACA thing wrong leftstreet Nov 2025 #29
KFF: More Than Half of ACA Marketplace Enrollees Live in Republican Congressional Districts NickB79 Nov 2025 #54
Interesting leftstreet Nov 2025 #55
Hey OP. Read Ezra Levin of Indivisible's explanation. You'll get it then. Bobstandard Nov 2025 #67
Indeed. I read it. I have joined indivisible in their primary Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #118
I have no desire to kill any Americans... not saying that is what Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #116
Wait, so the Democrats participated in this ruse choie Nov 2025 #88
And to show that they were "fighting for us".... Bettie Nov 2025 #107
Some but not all... I think. Schumer knew. Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #117
No I disagree. And now the GOP WILL GIVE NOTHING. Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #120
The point was to get the subsidies extended or made permanent..... reACTIONary Nov 2025 #73
It was very dumb to publicly repeatedly say the shutdown was to save the ACA subsidies then. RockRaven Nov 2025 #2
not really. That was the point. edisdead Nov 2025 #8
They won't fix shit. Healthcare is gone. Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #12
But but but UT_democrat Nov 2025 #81
Right. And lost an irreplaceable piece of legislation Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #100
that one time $2k check that no one will get rampartd Nov 2025 #108
My last heart procedure... a one day affair Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #119
They don't have to fix a damn thing, they can just run another grift disguised as a targeted handout and claim victory 0rganism Nov 2025 #44
They might as well eat the check for all good it would do. Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #103
Tell that to the people who missed a payment or lived under extreme stess the past month. CrispyQ Nov 2025 #49
Many who have now lost their healthcare and may die. Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #106
The Democratic leadership told us this is why they let the shutdown happen Mr.WeRP Nov 2025 #3
+1 berksdem Nov 2025 #74
Democrats supposedly demanded it after last CR was approved. Remember how ticked everyone was. Silent Type Nov 2025 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #5
the shutdown brought into focus the republicans failing ti address it edisdead Nov 2025 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #20
how long should the gov stay shutdown edisdead Nov 2025 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #39
you can talk to me. edisdead Nov 2025 #56
People were "angry" and demanding a shutdown to prove we were "fighting" tritsofme Nov 2025 #60
I've agreed with you on other things in the past, but not this time. BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #61
Well i agree Boo1 Nov 2025 #113
Well no matter what I am glad we tried to save Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #114
Elections have consequences. tritsofme Nov 2025 #115
The shutdown should have lasted a year... right up until the midterms lapfog_1 Nov 2025 #6
Yes it should have. Someone tipped Trump Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #9
that worm would have turned in 2 weeks when people couldn't travel edisdead Nov 2025 #16
nope lapfog_1 Nov 2025 #22
I'm always impressed by the brave warriors who were willing to fight until the last federal worker's home is foreclosed tritsofme Nov 2025 #21
you know... it is really rich when you criticize someone without knowing anything about them lapfog_1 Nov 2025 #42
How does extending the government shutdown and the suffering of the federal workforce make an ACA extension more likely? tritsofme Nov 2025 #53
it doesn't its just people falling for the same Dems in array talking points edisdead Nov 2025 #57
That would have been a catastrophe with government workers missing paycheck after paycheck. everyonematters Nov 2025 #25
exactly! edisdead Nov 2025 #34
Don't be so sure of that. BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #50
Don't be so sure of what? edisdead Nov 2025 #58
You're going to keep the government closed for a year .. ? stopdiggin Nov 2025 #26
That would be an utter disaster EdmondDantes_ Nov 2025 #35
No section 8, so more homelessness MichMan Nov 2025 #70
that be as destructive to the country as the whole tRump administration and no doubt the LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #66
The GOP say that and now there will Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #7
there was no path with the gov shut down either. edisdead Nov 2025 #32
And so we caved and let the GOP pick the path Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #112
I both agree and disagree. maxsolomon Nov 2025 #14
thats right. edisdead Nov 2025 #18
The ACA subsidies were passed in the first place as part of the pandemic relief measures Ocelot II Nov 2025 #85
I thought the ARP had "enhanced" subsidies and that there were subsidies prior to that. maxsolomon Nov 2025 #111
Then why did we have a shut down? Why did Schumer play the game if he knew he was going to Autumn Nov 2025 #15
the game only has so many innings edisdead Nov 2025 #24
Please berksdem Nov 2025 #75
Well, there certainly the fuck isn't now. nt Gore1FL Nov 2025 #19
they were NEVER going to bring it to a vote. edisdead Nov 2025 #30
"Never" is a long time. Gore1FL Nov 2025 #41
why don't they? edisdead Nov 2025 #59
I disagree, but we will never know given that the Senste Democrats caved. nt Gore1FL Nov 2025 #62
The MAGAs might have caved creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #23
why would they have caved? edisdead Nov 2025 #27
There was just an election that looked very frightening to them. creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #90
That was certainly possible. We'll never know. BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #33
We need a huge wave election creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #91
I doubt that wave will happen, but agree, he will fuck things up beyond anything we can imagine. BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #93
He's been losing about a point a month creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #94
What part about Republicans hate government and would just as soon abolish the federal government Wiz Imp Nov 2025 #43
They fear being voted out. creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #92
Tim Kaine, is that you? Xavier Breath Nov 2025 #28
Amazing how some people can find it so easy to rationize inaction Bluetus Nov 2025 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #47
Dems with allies like Angus King got one victory: Hassler Nov 2025 #31
Did I want the Dems to cave? no. Roc2020 Nov 2025 #37
Well, the vast majority of Democratic voters don't get why you don't get it yaesu Nov 2025 #38
In a month you'll be telling us that the agreement to hold a vote on ACA subsidies was never going to happen either Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #40
Nothing to worry about. Garland's got this. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #96
I'll Predict That Right Now. I Know Lucy's Holding the... ColoringFool Nov 2025 #97
The issue is we were told we were fighting for healthcare. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #45
And how much fundraising was based on this premise? Bluetus Nov 2025 #48
Good point. :( Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #51
Alternative view from Prof G and Jessica Tarlov pat_k Nov 2025 #52
Then why not authorize the government to stay open iemanja Nov 2025 #63
I agree, but it seems many people love to be angry at Dems on social media LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #64
mr fetterman? quakerboy Nov 2025 #65
Or a new genre of fan-fic, possibly Zenlitened Nov 2025 #95
Thank you. Concise and correct. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #68
Stop orangecrush Nov 2025 #71
Honestly, berksdem Nov 2025 #72
How do you KNOW that??? Seriously. One cannot deduct that just from the way the Dems orchestrated this cave. nt Exp Nov 2025 #77
In the coming battle... pat_k Nov 2025 #78
The shutdown was the only path. There is no other avenue to implement it. LonePirate Nov 2025 #79
In the face of fascism you must fight adam_vermont Nov 2025 #82
Bullshit Blues Heron Nov 2025 #83
Then why did the Dems play a role in the shutdown? choie Nov 2025 #86
Hear hear! 1,000,000% correct FHRRK Nov 2025 #89
Hindsight Usually Refers To Some Occurrence, Not Some.... ColoringFool Nov 2025 #98
It's still not over. GoodRaisin Nov 2025 #99
I absolutely do not believe that to be the case, not at all. nt Celerity Nov 2025 #101
We are pissed because we were led off a damn cliff. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #102
they tried. It didn't work. edisdead Nov 2025 #122
Dems are not to blame for the shut down. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #123
There is no path to ACA extension now either Bettie Nov 2025 #105
While I'm disappointed, i wonder if Democrats looked into the abyss that is named Trump Buckeyeblue Nov 2025 #109
I guess you know better than 36 Senators Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #110
O'Donnell agrees with you LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2025 #121
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