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Queso Delicioso

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82. It isn't a "narrative"

Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:57 PM

Nov 2025

It's a conclusion to which people are coming independently, based on the evidence of their own eyes and ears. If you want to change that conclusion, you (well, they) need to get busy drumming up some more favorable evidence.

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Republicans and their bull don't shake me as much as the dragging of our party and leaders in Dem forums [View all] bigtree Nov 2025 OP

Have you thought about running for office? You said you are willing to fight and we need some fighters in DC. LonePirate Nov 2025 #1

Bahahahahahaha BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #5

Tell us about Merrick Garland again Ponietz Nov 2025 #2

Merrick Garland Democrats! John Coktosten Nov 2025 #77

Garland had a R by his name, last I checked. GreenWave Nov 2025 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #3

What gets me is people looking at results like these and saying "well, they did their best, RockRaven Nov 2025 #4

Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #6

Got a link? And she was the best speaker ever. nt babylonsister Nov 2025 #8

They are big boys and girls, but our dumbass electorate is not. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #9

I don't think you understand modern electoral politics Happy Hoosier Nov 2025 #44

I don't think the voters understand the ballot box. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #52

Thank you, well said, and I agree with every word. Walleye Nov 2025 #7

You're right. And there's a reason why Republicans and Russians put so much effort into dividing the left. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #10

Because they know an easy win? quakerboy Nov 2025 #18

Yeah, no. It's a lot easier to divide Democrats when the person dividing is only a Democrat when it benefits them. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #50

Whom do you mean? Could it be Tim Kaine (Hillary's running mate), who Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #51

And if we had voted for Hillary and him, there would be no Trump. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #53

I DID VOTE for Hillary and him---!!!! Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #55

So you want to blame about a third of the party. quakerboy Nov 2025 #56

I agree except that I am thinking the cavers represent a lot less than a third of the party. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #61

I blame those not voting for Democrats. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #66

so if I look through your post history quakerboy Nov 2025 #74

You will find me mostly criticizing those that contribute to the in-fighting. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #79

And who do you suppose that was? quakerboy Nov 2025 #80

You again. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2025 #11

Good lawd 😴 demmiblue Nov 2025 #12

Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #13

I heard Carville brow beating Democrats who are upset about this while listening to MSNBC on a walk this afternoon. CentralMass Nov 2025 #14

I see eight wedges responsible for the current discord in the party Sympthsical Nov 2025 #15

Who knows these days quakerboy Nov 2025 #19

Gov Newsom edhopper Nov 2025 #16

I dont go down without a fight quakerboy Nov 2025 #17

Only 8 of them. creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #25

That's the 8 that were chosen because they aren't running in 2026 Bluetus Nov 2025 #27

No proof of that. creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #28

Either it was orchestrated or they went rogue. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2025 #85

Probably ended up that way creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #93

Don't kid yourself. kacekwl Nov 2025 #29

I don't kid myself creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #31

All of them quakerboy Nov 2025 #38

That kind of thinking helps Trump. creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #94

Voting for trump helps trump quakerboy Nov 2025 #95

Turning against Democrats helps him too. creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #96

*democrats quakerboy Nov 2025 #97

Most of them didn't. Those who did didn't most of the time. creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #98

They did when it matters and the rest are doing nothing about it. quakerboy Nov 2025 #99

Thank you bigtree. Good post. c-rational Nov 2025 #20

Democratic Senators angrychair Nov 2025 #21

correct Skittles Nov 2025 #23

I also think the timing of it is what hits so hard.... OneGrassRoot Nov 2025 #59

See it's not that angrychair Nov 2025 #65

Oh, I DEFINITELY hear you.... OneGrassRoot Nov 2025 #67

Making it all about how devastating losing ACA- subsidies would be-only to cave--was very poor messaging crimycarny Nov 2025 #78

I am so sorry, popsdenver Nov 2025 #22

We've got midterms to win mcar Nov 2025 #24

What we say on this site hurts no one iemanja Nov 2025 #41

On this site? Have you looked at social media and MSM? mcar Nov 2025 #64

It isn't a "narrative" Queso Delicioso Nov 2025 #82

7 elected Democrats voted to end the shutdown mcar Nov 2025 #84

This is going to hurt the midterms Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2025 #87

I can make the case gab13by13 Nov 2025 #26

Well, as long as the party makes stupid ass choices that make zero sense you better get used to it. nt yaesu Nov 2025 #30

Agree and to add FHRRK Nov 2025 #32

Well played. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #34

How is your head? FHRRK Nov 2025 #35

Massive hangover this morning, ok now. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #36

I got up once to get a beer FHRRK Nov 2025 #46

Lawrence just discussed problems for LEADERSHIP of Dem party, and we all should read/ elleng Nov 2025 #33

I think you and I are the only two DU'ers watching Ninga Nov 2025 #37

UTTERLY credible. elleng Nov 2025 #42

Well. Our priority right now must be to make sure you're not shaken. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #39

You have a soft spot for the most ineffective Democrats iemanja Nov 2025 #40

Lawrence O'Donnell has proven you right tonight, and all the anti-Schumers wrong. ancianita Nov 2025 #43

Here's the link to Rhiannon12866's OP with video... PunkinPi Nov 2025 #57

Yes, I saw it, thanks. ancianita Nov 2025 #69

Sure, you're welcome. PunkinPi Nov 2025 #86

Yep, it happens when folks upload a full hour. But it's worth the info for the 12 hrs that 177 people got to view it. ancianita Nov 2025 #88

Senator Chris Murphy and 36 other Democratic Senators disagree. And they're in a better position to know. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #63

They don't wanna get dragged? Happy Hoosier Nov 2025 #45

Even worse FHRRK Nov 2025 #47

I agree, Bigtree. summer_in_TX Nov 2025 #48

Ask yourself this Metaphorical Nov 2025 #49

Hilarious awesomerwb1 Nov 2025 #54

K&R betsuni Nov 2025 #58

You Lost Me At "I Get It, Probably More Than...." How's That... ColoringFool Nov 2025 #60

So we should sit back while they sell us out over and over again Thrill Nov 2025 #62

Strategic voting to get a 271 vote count from Republicans is not selling out. ancianita Nov 2025 #70

Disagree, we're not dragging dem leadership enough on communication uponit7771 Nov 2025 #68

So, are we supposed to pretend that Bettie Nov 2025 #71

" Republicans and their bull don't shake me as much as the dragging of our party and leaders in Dem forums" BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #72

Indeed. Never saying a negative word about ineffectual, self-inflicted losses... LR3 Nov 2025 #75

Agree MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2025 #73

Moronic things like "don't listen to Lawrence O'Donnell, he's rich"; Tim Kaine's a "corporate shill," don't listen. betsuni Nov 2025 #92

Yes, and some rando on Tik Tok MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2025 #100

Yes, yes John Coktosten Nov 2025 #76

When they fuck up, intentionally or not, they *absolutely* deserve to get dragged Rob H. Nov 2025 #81

Well you sure joined the wrong party...that's what Dems do. pecosbob Nov 2025 #83

We'll either cool off or pay at the polls next year gulliver Nov 2025 #89

March in lockstep is a REPUBLICAN TRAIT! Emile Nov 2025 #90