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AZJonnie

(2,507 posts)
11. No I do not think it will matter
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:11 PM
Nov 11

In no small part because we'll never get the whole thing, un-doctored by Bondi and Patel.

But also because I think that even the full files would drop with a nothing-burger level thud in the first place. In the sense there will be nothing new and earth-shattering in them.

That's because I believe if they actually contained the things that people frantically speculate about, like all-powerful Pedo Cabals with the power to whack Epstein in jail, and/or Epstein running a massive child-prostitution ring to the rich and famous, this would have part of the Biden DoJ's case against Maxwell. Instead they prosecuted her for trafficking a couple of girls to Epstein himself, and got a conviction for only 1.

Also I believe Epstein's pilots, who were PROSECUTION witnesses for the DOJ in the Maxwell case, who said Giuffre is the only minor they know of who travelled without a guardian on the plane, ever. And they presumed Guiffre was over 18 because of how she dressed, carried herself, and was treated by Epstein and Maxwell, i.e. like an adult, and she travelled with them a LOT of times. And that they never found evidence of sex while cleaning up after flights, and that they were never told any area of the plane was "off-limits", ever, and that they spent time in the cabin fairly often, used the restroom in the cabin area, etc. They testified this under oath, in a massive, high-profile case against Maxwell, where any of presumably dozens of women could call them out and say "bullshit" if they were lying? And none of them did.

I think the reality of the Epstein case is considerably more mundane than people speculate. A couple of rich perverts recruiting and paying vulnerable minors for sex, with themselves. Though I do believe they shared their concubine, Virginia Giuffre, with Prince Andrew, and probably some others, since she says that happened.

Basically, I think we already pretty much know what happened even without the release of the files. What probably IS in the files though is some evidence of people KNOWING, but not saying jack about it. People like TSF, for example.

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He will veto the release, then you need 67 senators to override. NoRethugFriends Nov 11 #1
Where did you read that? AZJonnie Nov 11 #4
It is a bill like any other. Needs to be passed by the both houses and signed by president. NoRethugFriends Nov 11 #8
Yes and No Jersey Devil Nov 11 #30
Sadly, what we know now purr-rat beauty Nov 11 #13
I certainly don't, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 11 #2
Semper Fi MGySgt sarisataka Nov 11 #7
I agree. It is confirming what we already think we know. OLDMDDEM Nov 11 #3
I think what we suspect is in the files is worse than what it actually in them. Therefore, I'm fine with letting trump Silent Type Nov 11 #5
From what I.. 2naSalit Nov 11 #18
A lot of people do for some reason. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 11 #6
They removed anything that is incriminating Trump. Emile Nov 11 #9
No, it won't make a difference Bettie Nov 11 #10
No I do not think it will matter AZJonnie Nov 11 #11
It's water cooler talk in the office where I work Torchlight Nov 11 #12
They could really rile up his MAGA base leftstreet Nov 11 #14
I'll do you one better: the whole thing is a giant McGuffin Prairie Gates Nov 11 #15
They aren't going to matter. mr715 Nov 11 #16
If you've been the victim of sexual abuse, it matters misanthrope Nov 11 #17
I am speaking only of the effect the release would have on any change in the political landscape sarisataka Nov 11 #22
Yeah, see the politics are secondary to me misanthrope Nov 11 #26
Michael Wolff says there are bad photos-- viva la Nov 11 #19
To normal humans? Yes they matter ... To MAGA? Not so much uponit7771 Nov 11 #20
If "removing Trump for office" is the threshold for things that matter, Qutzupalotl Nov 11 #21
Independent evidence will show up no matter the DOJ shielding what it has. usonian Nov 11 #23
My, my, my. Look at all the Democrats, giving up. Paladin Nov 11 #24
Yasha Levine articulated the gist jfz9580m Nov 11 #25
If they have Trump raping a 3 year old on tape Republicans would say it was AI. nt doc03 Nov 11 #27
How many Republican billionaires are in the files? How many prominent politicians besides Trump? DBoon Nov 11 #28
Lately its just an excuse for stupid decisions (the crazy 8). nt yaesu Nov 11 #29
The most important benefit snot Nov 11 #31
They do, just not as much as one would hope. quaker bill Nov 11 #32
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