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DeschutesRiver

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91. I've never lived where you couldn't hear the coyotes; this is probably the first place where
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 04:18 PM
Dec 2012

we were sitting out having coffee, heard yelping, then screaming as we watched a coyote flash over the top of our ridge (about 200' away), down the steep side to the wooded copse at the bottom, and kill a fawn. Then bam out of that wooded kill site came the coyote, running as momma deer came after him with a vengence - the two of them weaved all over the nearby cleared sagebrush area, the coyote bobbing and weaving, the deer getting close enough to leap and strike. She never completely caught up with the coyote. While I've seen the aftermath of many things get eaten here, I'd never seen it in progress.

Yesterday, dh heard a bird just screaming. He ran outside, and by our pumphouse, there was a very small barn owl making a meal of a robin. He said the owl slowly turned and looked at him, like, what? I gotta eat... and then went back to finish his very fresh meal.

This happens daily, and is as it should be - I am with you on enjoying things just as they are and as they come into view for us, too. Soothing is a good word for this experience. We don't have any meaningful diminishment of wildlife out here, because there really aren't many souls out here. I've heard we have feral pigs around here now, though I haven't seen them. And I won't have that here on our land, due to the concerns that others have already expressed elsewhere. That is some bad juju. The bears and cougars bother me not; that said, if I come across them in a kill while out and about on our ranch doing things, and am threatened (only way I can think of where I'd be in danger), I plan to survive it.

We do have rabid animals way out here, even more unusually for here, rabid bats in the last couple of years (that we've sent out for testing). During years where rabies cases are noted, we even vaccinate our horses with annual rabies shots. We are far enough out that we are our own first responders, for fire, police and medical, though we do have a life flight membership like the rest of our neighbors do (we've seen LF choppers land here and there nearby). The choppers get here way more quickly than we could drive to the nearest hospital, and we have a cleared area where they can land pretty close to the house. While we have put out a small lightening fire on our "ranch", and helped to put out others nearby, fire department support for our house is pretty much not possible due to the time it takes to get out here. In most directions that I look, there is nothing for 100s of thousands of acres. But being this remote, I am realistic.

If any of our livestock gets terminally injured, it will take quite a while of suffering for any vet to get here, and you can't transport an immobile 1200# animal to town, so we would be the ones doing the euthanisia, and that won't involve torturing the poor animal with a club as someone else mentioned. To each his own, of course, but I won't watch suffering and screaming go on for hours while we wait for someone else to do the heavy lifting. We raise our own cattle, and they are slaughtered here as well, either by dh or the mobile service, because I don't like what happens to feedlot cattle. If I buy anything, it is because I know where/how it is raised, fed & slaughtered (so I don't get much other than our beef).

Our nearest neighbor is a couple of miles away, and the rest are probably 5+ and beyond. You mentioned seeing nothing but farmland, so I assume you have no other nearby neighbors on smaller lots? Out here, there is no light pollution and there is no noise, not from cars, people, nearby equipment, streets, nothing. At this point in my life, I'd find it hard to be anywhere, even in a civilized rural area like yours, where people/noise/lights are any closer than 2-5 miles away, but as we age, that may change when we are physically unable to keep up here. And I sure feel that more and more as the decades pass by.

I guess there are many valid definitions of rural out there. But I can see that I have a lot of equipment out here that we use that most people, even those with other definitions of "rural", don't have or wouldn't ever need.

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I am a rural non-gun owner [View all] NNN0LHI Dec 2012 OP
Same place. Whovian Dec 2012 #1
I was starting to feel like a weirdo because I wasn't all armed up NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #5
not rural - suburban ... zbdent Dec 2012 #2
I'd be more worried about mice if I were you :) Taverner Dec 2012 #3
So you don't have any trouble with animals? Indydem Dec 2012 #4
You either don't live in the country or you are an idiot. Whovian Dec 2012 #7
Um, yes. I live in the country. Indydem Dec 2012 #10
Geez, do you shoot all the songbirds and squirrels and rabbits too? Jamastiene Dec 2012 #19
Squirrels and rabbits are good to eat and tasty too. N/T GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #33
so you shoot random animals from just outside your house? CreekDog Dec 2012 #47
Me too. I'm sure the neighbors love some dude popping off at all hours. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #51
Bullshit. I've lived in the country for a long time. cali Dec 2012 #54
but you didn't grow up there, i think. i think you said you're a transplant from suburban ct. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #66
so what? And in suburban cali Dec 2012 #69
a whole half mile. jeepers. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #70
I did grow up there, right across the state line... countryjake Dec 2012 #72
i didn't say anything about old-timers with guns being hell-bent on killing things. i said that HiPointDem Dec 2012 #73
Well, when city slickers decide to encroach... countryjake Dec 2012 #74
Didn't work for me and I live in the middle of no where sunwyn Dec 2012 #106
we have a rash of dogs being shot recently for going after livestock loli phabay Dec 2012 #113
he "hunts varmints" corkhead Dec 2012 #14
I believe Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #24
I am surrounded by them by the hundreds. NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #8
There are people, usually transplants, who move to the country and then decide Jamastiene Dec 2012 #22
When I bought my current place, LWolf Dec 2012 #38
+1000 countryjake Dec 2012 #61
and there are people, usually transplants, who move to the country & then decide that the HiPointDem Dec 2012 #67
Ever seen a cat that's been mauled by a coyote or dog pack? Know any families that RELY on deer meat KittyWampus Dec 2012 #111
My fences LWolf Dec 2012 #16
We are all wide-open where I'm at. Indydem Dec 2012 #18
I have horses and a sheep, LWolf Dec 2012 #37
Lol, you don't need to shoot every coyote, raccoon, opossum and fox you see! Jamastiene Dec 2012 #17
If an animal does something to damage or destroy my property. Indydem Dec 2012 #20
I get it. laundry_queen Dec 2012 #84
Your approach of killing all wildlife is so enlightened. Whatever justifies owning geek tragedy Dec 2012 #88
Maybe because I'm a long time member. Indydem Dec 2012 #99
A long time member who somehow takes the conservative side of virtually every issue in discussions geek tragedy Dec 2012 #103
That's malarky Indydem Dec 2012 #105
The poster didn't say they shot every animal they see. You are projecting here. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #112
I only eat people who shoot at me. hunter Dec 2012 #41
nobody needs to thank you for anything CreekDog Dec 2012 #48
LOL I live in the Raleigh suburbs and have seen... WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #57
I just thought I wasnt rural enough. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #6
If they are Go Vols Dec 2012 #9
I don't know where my keys are. We had a murderer running around in my "back yard" not too long ago. Gregorian Dec 2012 #11
thanks Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #60
My grandmother laundry_queen Dec 2012 #85
Blasphemer!!!! JoePhilly Dec 2012 #12
You must not have a big weapons cache you need to protect corkhead Dec 2012 #13
Lol Jamastiene Dec 2012 #27
I've got the keys. LWolf Dec 2012 #15
Only reason I seen them ten years ago is I changed doors and locks NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #21
I am a rural gun owner. Rex Dec 2012 #23
I don't own a gun but.... Skittles Dec 2012 #25
locking the doors does keep the axe murderers away CreekDog Dec 2012 #49
Careful With That Axe Eugene NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #98
One reason I've given for locking doors, kentauros Dec 2012 #55
aw HECK yes Skittles Dec 2012 #63
Often, I have to unlock my car kentauros Dec 2012 #78
All of our friends know we don't appreciate unanounced visits NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #100
Also, as you're rural, kentauros Dec 2012 #102
I am a rural non-gun owner too. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #26
You should have let us known sooner, Don. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #28
Small towner here, grntuscarora Dec 2012 #29
where i live first thing animal control asks you when you have a rabid animal is if you have a gun loli phabay Dec 2012 #35
As if rabid animals are all that common today. Whovian Dec 2012 #39
lol simpler more humane really loli phabay Dec 2012 #45
LOL???? Really? Shooting a pup is LOL? Whovian Dec 2012 #58
lol i cant believe you think you handled the rabid animal in any way humane loli phabay Dec 2012 #68
They're not all that uncommon either. JoeyT Dec 2012 #64
I used to be that guy. Robb Dec 2012 #30
Thank you for sharing that information. I also leave in a rural area and never owned a gun southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #31
When I was six years old, my mom used to give me money for bread and milk, and let me walk alone... slackmaster Dec 2012 #32
Curious - what do you consider rural? How many acres do you live on; how close are neighbors? nt DeschutesRiver Dec 2012 #34
i use if you are on a well and septic system and not on google maps loli phabay Dec 2012 #36
I thought about those distinctions, but just that alone doesn't really address density DeschutesRiver Dec 2012 #40
i remember some poster talking about his rural apartment block and was wondering if thats really loli phabay Dec 2012 #46
Dirt roads would work as a criteria. DeschutesRiver Dec 2012 #90
Being on a well doesn't work anymore. JoeyT Dec 2012 #65
I can step out my back door and take a leak without being seen by anyone NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #71
I've never lived where you couldn't hear the coyotes; this is probably the first place where DeschutesRiver Dec 2012 #91
That first scene with the fawn and coyote would disturb some people NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #92
It would, but that is how nature works. DeschutesRiver Dec 2012 #95
Me too Don panader0 Dec 2012 #42
That's nice. PavePusher Dec 2012 #43
The violent crime rate in my state of New Hampshire is vanishingly small. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #53
Which doesn't make the occasional need any less real or more predictable. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #82
Got it, so you need semi auto guns in rural areas because the crime rate is so low. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #86
Have a great day. PavePusher Dec 2012 #89
Same, including the keys. riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #44
Doesn't anyone around here own a German shepherd or something? mainer Dec 2012 #50
Me too. I know I had them but Raven Dec 2012 #52
Also rural, xmas74 Dec 2012 #56
Rural, no guns, but I definitely lock up the house when I leave and at night. Dems to Win Dec 2012 #59
Rural...very rural...gun owner here. beevul Dec 2012 #62
Get a Jackass.... jdadd Dec 2012 #81
That is a beautiful dog you have guardian Dec 2012 #93
Sadly, that isn't our dog, just an example. We would like to have a pair of them though. beevul Dec 2012 #104
great photos and info guardian Dec 2012 #114
Rural but do have close neighbors madokie Dec 2012 #75
We have deer and squirrels and a bear or three every once in a while graham4anything Dec 2012 #76
+1 Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #80
I was getting ready to change the name of this place to NRA Underground in my bookmarks. aandegoons Dec 2012 #77
Well, you certainly came for rational conversation. PavePusher Dec 2012 #83
OK your choice your life Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #79
Because they will shoot you? Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #87
It happens but not annoying the neighbors is just a good way to go through life Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #94
So you actually think you should be armed in case of a war with your neighbors. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #96
No but my neighbor IS a paranoid teahadist nutjob with guns Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #97
I would move if I found myself in that situation NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #108
Well his house is 1,225 yards from my property line Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #109
You're not the NRA's target audience bongbong Dec 2012 #101
Lots of priveleged people here. Jim Warren Dec 2012 #107
Priveleged in what way? Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #110
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