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Wiz Imp

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22. It's OK. Hey, I'm not happy with Fetterman either.
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 05:29 PM
Nov 15

Though my issues relate mostly to his propensity to make stupid statements in public including criticizing the Democratic Party over some really dumb things. But ultimately, I'm most concerned about Representatives and Senators votes. And to this point, Fetterman's only made 2 real consequential votes - for the 2 CRs this year. I disagree with him on both votes but I think they are defensible as he made a pledge to never cast a vote which could result in a shutdown and he's kept that pledge. And while I disagree with those votes, I believe even if he voted against the CRs, some other Democrat would have taken his place in voting for them. Beyond those 2 votes, he could have voted the opposite way of his actual vote on every single piece of legislation and/or nominee and nothing would have changed.

I'd prefer a better candidate in 2028 , but in the meantime, Fetterman's record is nowhere near as bad as people here accuse him of and Conor Lamb would almost surely have had a worse voting record based on his actual voting record as a member of the House.

I had Tim Holden as my Congressional Rep for a number of years. He was a Democrat, but way too Conservative for my liking. He voted the wrong way many times as far as I was concerned. Yet I overall found him acceptable, because a real Progressive Democrat could likely not have won that District and I knew any actual Republican would be far worse. Now, I'm stuck with Scott Perry as my rep. Ooof. I long for a Tim Holden these days.

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Disgusting: [View all] applegrove Nov 15 OP
Fetterman needs to be primaried. poli-junkie Nov 15 #1
Sad, but true... Wounded Bear Nov 15 #4
NO.... Fetterman is not 'worse' than Manchin.... Jack Valentino Nov 15 #44
That he is. At least sometimes Manchin faked being a Dem. This guy doesn't even try. nt Autumn Nov 16 #50
Absolutely. Enough of this. paleotn Nov 15 #14
Agree agree agree. He is not doing right for what we call...the least of these Trueblue1968 Nov 15 #28
He should be an easy primary target AdamGG Nov 15 #42
He's a disgusting Repub in Dem clothing who love is privileges. Cretin. NotHardly Nov 15 #43
He should never have taken office Random Boomer Nov 16 #51
Anybody want to chip for a cake for Fetterman's retirement party? Fiendish Thingy Nov 15 #2
I can think of some nice extra ingredients to add to John's cake. erronis Nov 15 #5
Karma can be a bitch. republianmushroom Nov 15 #3
I hope he sees that. Do they not see their hypocrisy? IcyPeas Nov 15 #6
He won't. Even he admitted that his changed after his stroke Javaman Nov 15 #20
Absofuckinglutely....sorry he had a stroke but democratsruletheday Nov 15 #38
futterboy is manchin & sinema combined Nigrum Cattus Nov 15 #7
At the time of the election it was a no brainer, it was him or Mehmet Oz, but..... ToxMarz Nov 15 #8
But the other Dem in the PA primary was Conor Lamb. I wish I had voted for him. But after reading Wiz Imp's post I 'm debm55 Nov 15 #10
Conor Lamb Wiz Imp Nov 15 #17
Oh, I didn't know all that. My bad. debm55 Nov 15 #18
It's OK. Hey, I'm not happy with Fetterman either. Wiz Imp Nov 15 #22
Tim Holden 56miSSie Nov 15 #36
Thank you! 3825-87867 Nov 15 #23
So clearly we are all so much more fortunate to have Fetterman ToxMarz Nov 15 #34
But... but... but... Fetterman is a Democrat! PJMcK Nov 15 #9
Was. Past tense. unweird Nov 15 #12
Senators and Congress should be on medicaid IbogaProject Nov 15 #11
They should be required to use Medicare and SS RainCaster Nov 15 #15
+1 leftstreet Nov 15 #21
I think we should all write to our representatives and senators and suggest they introduce legislation PatrickforB Nov 16 #53
I posted something similar. BidenRocks Nov 15 #13
With his medical problems, we may not have to wait for 28 RainCaster Nov 15 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Nov 15 #19
Yes he can!! walkingman Nov 15 #26
The operative word here is WAS. That was before Fetterman stroked out and became as demented as Trump. flashman13 Nov 15 #35
LOL. It's a shame more don't acknowledge this. Nixie Nov 15 #40
His stroke changed him. tblue37 Nov 16 #45
Members of Congress are required to use the ACA for health coverage BumRushDaShow Nov 15 #24
Umm... so, is that the only insurance that they can have? OldBaldy1701E Nov 15 #25
Remember that the ACA has "tiers" of plans BumRushDaShow Nov 15 #29
I expected that they would. OldBaldy1701E Nov 15 #30
I expect some have their own private physicans BumRushDaShow Nov 15 #32
Indeed. OldBaldy1701E Nov 16 #48
I had such high hopes for this guy. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 15 #27
We get rid of Joe Manchin, and got a Fetterman. Emile Nov 15 #31
Seems that way. One step forward, one step back. Result: nothing changes. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 15 #33
Manchin will be replaced by an actual Republican, Jim Justice RandomNumbers Nov 15 #41
That meme assumes Rethugs & Trump would have caved on restoring ACA premium tax credits Martin Eden Nov 15 #37
Fetidman has failed the Democratic Party Blue Owl Nov 15 #39
Need to flood his office with postcards IzzaNuDay Nov 16 #46
Take another look. ransomeli Nov 16 #47
Fetterman is a trump pimp. He needs to be thrown out of office, ASAP. (nt) Paladin Nov 16 #49
He is a creep. Not nearly a DJT creep but getting close. efhmc Nov 16 #52
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