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30. You are misreading my point, which is purely in the context that we do not know for sure what the men believed

Sun Nov 16, 2025, 07:17 AM

Nov 2025

about what Giuffre's age was. I am ABSOLUTELY NOT blaming her. I'm considering the possibility that Epstein was involved in a shakedown type of situation, where he told these rich guys "hey this girl just turned 18" or something. That doesn't make any such men INNOCENT, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying don't KNOW for sure. The fact that she was not so young-looking that you look at her and go "no way she's 18" allows for that *possibility*. The pilots didn't know she was not 18. This means it's possible he wasn't telling anyone around that she was not 18. Please though, NOT saying that ANYTHING was her fault! I'm not a monster, just trying to piece everything together, and not ruling out possibilities when the evidence does not (yet) rule it out.

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