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muriel_volestrangler

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43. Forget what an AI regurgitation machine says - listen to the blog wisdom of 20 years: it's the 27% crazification factor
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:07 PM
Nov 2025
John: Hey, Bush is now at 37% approval. I feel much less like Kevin McCarthy screaming in traffic. But I wonder what his base is --

Tyrone: 27%.

John: ... you said that immediately, and with some authority.

Tyrone: Obama vs. Alan Keyes. Keyes was from out of state, so you can eliminate any established political base; both candidates were black, so you can factor out racism; and Keyes was plainly, obviously, completely crazy. Batshit crazy. Head-trauma crazy. But 27% of the population of Illinois voted for him. They put party identification, personal prejudice, whatever ahead of rational judgement. Hell, even like 5% of Democrats voted for him. That's crazy behaviour. I think you have to assume a 27% Crazification Factor in any population.

John: Objectively crazy or crazy vis-a-vis my own inertial reference frame for rational behaviour? I mean, are you creating the Theory of Special Crazification or General Crazification?

Tyrone: Hadn't thought about it. Let's split the difference. Half just have worldviews which lead them to disagree with what you consider rationality even though they arrive at their positions through rational means, and the other half are the core of the Crazification -- either genuinely crazy; or so woefully misinformed about how the world works, the bases for their decision making is so flawed they may as well be crazy.

https://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html

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That thirty percent are his people. pwb Nov 2025 #1
But he lost half his people in the Republican civil war womanofthehills Nov 2025 #13
True, but Shipwack Nov 2025 #35
Have you heard of "kayfabe"? 'Cause what you described smells like kayfabe. 0rganism Nov 2025 #36
Our educational system has failed. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2025 #2
as a career educator I'm afraid I have to agree, but with caveats mike_c Nov 2025 #22
I have three adult sons Diamond_Dog Nov 2025 #38
As a retired reading specialist... maddiemom Nov 2025 #44
My mother was a remedial reading teacher. Diamond_Dog Nov 2025 #45
My second son was dyslexic Jilly_in_VA Nov 2025 #52
An amazing number of celebrities and other public figures... maddiemom Nov 2025 #54
In my personal experience, conservatives love a "strongman". Midnight Writer Nov 2025 #3
Many Republicans over on X are hating Trump womanofthehills Nov 2025 #14
I would have thought it would be higher than that. nt iemanja Nov 2025 #4
Four in ten is pretty high and frightening. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2025 #5
Do you mean contemporary German elections? iemanja Nov 2025 #7
1930s. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2025 #8
I believe it's lower than that. gab13by13 Nov 2025 #9
I'm talking about authoritarianist tendencies iemanja Nov 2025 #19
Meh. Trump's MAGA just hate just LiBeraLs leftstreet Nov 2025 #6
MAGAS hate small l liberals because they oppose authoritarianism. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2025 #10
Not sure what they hate the most leftstreet Nov 2025 #11
Stop posting AI summaries as news or editorials. intheflow Nov 2025 #12
AI is here to stay ands it's fast womanofthehills Nov 2025 #17
Thank you. If I would have posted the numbers I would have been asked for a source. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2025 #18
Thanks. intheflow Nov 2025 #39
Unless your name is EarlG, I don't think that's your call. People generally Maru Kitteh Nov 2025 #26
That *is* my opinion. intheflow Nov 2025 #42
The DSB of of old would have reacted poorly. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2025 #53
and it comes up with "26 percent of U.S. respondents were 'highly right-wing authoritarian' compared to other countries" thesquanderer Nov 2025 #30
Just like every society has 20 percent needing support, they also have 30 percent assholes. TheBlackAdder Nov 2025 #15
When I was growing up, the general assumption was haele Nov 2025 #16
I would bet that these numbers would hold around the same for every human population you look at AZJonnie Nov 2025 #20
That 1/3 breakdown seems to happen a lot in different situations. Collimator Nov 2025 #34
I think it is part of our psyche, but also reflective of the fact that what is not binary tends to be a continuum AZJonnie Nov 2025 #41
I'm not a mathematician or a trained artist. . . Collimator Nov 2025 #46
Without looking it up and instead relying on memory here AZJonnie Nov 2025 #47
So, I looked up how the Golden Ratio works/what it is and its relation to Fibonacci Sequence AZJonnie Nov 2025 #51
The non-stop 24/7 propaganda apparatus keeps the floor at a hard 25-35% FrankBooth Nov 2025 #21
People who represent those percentages are charter members of the dobleremolque Nov 2025 #23
Because that's also the same amount who are glued to Fox 24 hours a day. Initech Nov 2025 #24
I would happily deport 30% of authoritarian dreamers. BComplex Nov 2025 #25
his "floor" is 100% white "christian" nationalists Nigrum Cattus Nov 2025 #27
Personally, I don't want that 1/3 tearing down my and your United States/America. chouchou Nov 2025 #28
30% of Americans are hardcore bigots BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 2025 #29
OK, but are they good with a dangerously stupid authoritarian who is screwing THEM left and right? William Seger Nov 2025 #31
30% support for authoritarianism is common across many nations. unblock Nov 2025 #32
Nixon always retained 25-30% support to the end Arazi Nov 2025 #33
Morons will be morons until something happens to them. mdbl Nov 2025 #37
"Why Trump Has A Floor Of Thirty Percent Support." Botany Nov 2025 #40
Forget what an AI regurgitation machine says - listen to the blog wisdom of 20 years: it's the 27% crazification factor muriel_volestrangler Nov 2025 #43
The 30% are bubble people. kacekwl Nov 2025 #48
Authoritarians I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2025 #49
The US is one of the churchiest countries remaining Bluetus Nov 2025 #50
Trump supporters are the 1/3 that would round up and kill 1/3 while the last 1/3 watches. LudwigPastorius Nov 2025 #55
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