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37. History shows how some people were forced to wear clothing for identification. ...
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:34 AM
Dec 2012
The Yellow Star
By Jennifer Rosenberg, About.com Guide

The yellow star, inscribed with the word "Jude," has become a symbol of Nazi persecution. Its likeness abounds upon Holocaust literature and materials. But the Jewish badge was not instituted in 1933 when Hitler came to power. It was not instituted in 1935 when the Nuremberg Laws stripped Jews of their citizenship. It was still not implemented by Kristallnacht in 1938. The oppression and labeling of the Jews by use of the Jewish badge did not begin until after the start of the Second World War. And even then, it began as local laws rather than as a unified Nazi policy.

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The Nazis rarely had an original idea. Almost always what made the Nazi policies different was that they intensified, magnified, and institutionalized the age-old methods of persecution.

The oldest reference to using mandatory articles of clothing to identify and distinguish Jews from the rest of society was in 807 CE. In this year, Abbassid caliph Haroun al-Raschid ordered all Jews to wear a yellow belt and a tall, cone-like hat.1

But it was in 1215 that the Fourth Lateran Council, presided over by Pope Innocent III, made its infamous decree. Canon 68 declare

Jews and Saracens [Muslims] of both sexes in every Christian province and at all times shall be marked off in the eyes of the public from other peoples through the character of their dress.2
http://history1900s.about.com/od/holocaust/a/yellowstar.htm


Now I am seriously doubting that you want 80,000,000 gun owners in our nation to be required to have tattoos on their foreheads or to wear armbands.

But I will advise you that many lurkers come to DU to understand how Democrats feel about current issues just as some DU members go to conservative websites such as FreeRepublic to read the foolish comments often posted there.

A comment such as yours might cause some to believe that the liberal and progressive folks who post here are willing to discriminate against those who disagree with their views.

I realize that you are emotionally upset at the recent massacres in schools and theaters and that is entirely understandable. I own firearms but I had a nightmare about the shooting at the school in Connecticut last night and I rarely have bad dreams. We do need to have an honest discussion on gun violence in our nation and if we all show at least some respect for those who disagree with us we might actually make some progress in addressing this issue.


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yet another moron who should be kept away from guns nt msongs Dec 2012 #1
Sue the fucker. Sue all gun fuckers. Sue them back into the stone age where they belong. nt onehandle Dec 2012 #2
On what grounds? Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #4
For publishing public information? ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #9
Maybe not such a great idea. LARED Dec 2012 #3
Unfortunately, the Bush/Cheney years misled some into believing that privacy is "quaint" derby378 Dec 2012 #7
i'm having a hard time taking that at face value.. frylock Dec 2012 #14
His gay and black friends all agree with him too, I suspect. Robb Dec 2012 #20
Great Idea Is To Publish National Maps Of All Gun Owners So I Can Steer Clear Before One Goes Postal cantbeserious Dec 2012 #5
With 1/3 of all households in the US owning guns NickB79 Dec 2012 #17
That May Be True - But Knowing Who These People Are Means I Can Personally Shun Them cantbeserious Dec 2012 #38
The data needed to create such a map simply does not exist slackmaster Dec 2012 #21
Then All The Better Reason To Institute Mandatory Gun Registration Just Like Automobiles cantbeserious Dec 2012 #39
Two wrongs don't make a right Turbineguy Dec 2012 #6
Yeah really. Initech Dec 2012 #36
Publicly Available Information Of Gun Owners - Someone Is Leveraging That Data cantbeserious Dec 2012 #40
As predictable as sunrise, one of those reporters Robb Dec 2012 #8
I have read where some of the people on the list have gotten phone calls and other communications ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #10
Delighting in the intimidation of the press? Robb Dec 2012 #11
No, I am finding amusement in journalists going through what they dish out ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #13
You're creeping me out. Robb Dec 2012 #22
I have no respect for the media or so called journalists ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #23
"Its not like journalism is a real profession. There are no enforced standards or even rules." Chorophyll Dec 2012 #25
RWS said it well, information wants to be free and I agree that public information is indeed public ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #30
This tit-for-tat bullplop is getting old. Piazza Riforma Dec 2012 #12
I would have expect the so called journalists to not do what they did or accept similar treatment ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #15
Don't know which is more disturbing Piazza Riforma Dec 2012 #16
That level of privacy violation is not schoolyard childishness. However, since there is no viable ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #18
Once again the idea that you dub yourself "professor" and Piazza Riforma Dec 2012 #24
If there is no law, then all public data is fair game ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #28
What the paper did isn't "noble". Piazza Riforma Dec 2012 #31
and publishing photos, links to pics of their children and description of her car as well as the bettyellen Dec 2012 #27
As WBC and others have learned...don't mess with the geeks ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #29
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #19
Sorry, can't believe they didn't anticipate this - lynne Dec 2012 #26
My kindergarten teacher taught me that two wrongs don't make a right Piazza Riforma Dec 2012 #33
Owners of handguns and assault weapons bowens43 Dec 2012 #32
Tattoos on their foreheads perhaps or at the very least...armbands? ;) eom Purveyor Dec 2012 #34
Great idea. IF you own a snub nosed revolver you can be identified like this... LARED Dec 2012 #35
History shows how some people were forced to wear clothing for identification. ... spin Dec 2012 #37
I'm having a hard time feeling any sympathy for these "journalists." NaturalHigh Dec 2012 #41
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