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In reply to the discussion: AI expert Tristan Harris: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! [View all]jfz9580m
(16,291 posts)I wish Tristan Harris and grifters like that wouldnt get so much attention.
This is the fault of a credulous media that promotes the fraudulent faux humblebrags
I agree that these guys are fascists and so is their AI, but the reformed grifter brigade.
This is someone I found recently I really like:
https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/adam-becker/more-everything-forever/
The super intelligence etc narrative gives the impression that these guys are actually competent and they arent.
Thats the thing. They are losers and douchebags.
Their scientific methods are deceptive. And garbage. Its muscular fascism and deceit by which they are triumphing.
What I like about Ed Zitron and now Becker is that they attack this fucking awful humblebrag.
Hinton and a few of the Google creeps are not stupid. They are malicious. But the rest are outright stupid. They couldnt unclog a bloody toilet let alone build a super AI.
But they dont need to. They are proficient at deception and social engineering and a large enough and reprehensible set of true elites are for reasons unclear to me not attacking them the way the average grunt in stem is.
Its all such bullshit.
But
at least I am happy to have broken the death grip of their stupid narratives games and products.
Real science is nothing like this nor is real life and its not scary. Its cool.
I dont know when it is worse..when they shill it fraudulently or equally fraudulently talk about safety.
I thought Adam Becker was sane when he was interviewed by Ketcham. Thats an actual reality based community.
Its not about who is better etc.
But a society keeps falling for their narratives is doomed and to call that fast and to call it slow to refuse to coexist with such fucking bs.
I mean.. yeah it doesnt make one popular but..
Popularity is overrated. But its not insanity or truly being a hater.
This is too slow.
I dont mean you highplainsdem. I do mean the fact that as a society instead of tarring and feathering Tristan Harris he is allowed to go around bullshitting.
At this point with anyone as loathsome as Tristan Harris bullshitting, I am starting to think that instead of the worthless junk we see passed off as AI by those private sector parasites at Google etc who want to hog all of reality, there may actually be some real ai somewhere that is more like actual science factoring in realities human and tech and it may not be saying or doing things these incompetent creeps shill and were such a thing to exist (something inline with the predictions of democratic minded scientists and or predatory shills, these creeps would want to defund and destroy it).
I have no idea what such a thing would be but whatever it is I am sure that Tristan Harris and his ilk are invariably sleazy and wrong any which way.
What a sleazy grifter.
Anyway I have to go offline and immerse myself in my work. I have seen enough.
I really owe EarG and DU for permitting to post insane rants here.
I will file complaints later about all of the last 14 years. I dont play nice with fascists. They are annoying and stupid and blah.
I shall be back after I complete a paper I have been working on. We are all committed to democracy and sanity after all.
Edit: one last thing. Its not just ai
As I bid goodbye to a period of my life where except the routine stuff or the few things I like or coexist with, I will remember the whole with disdain alone (2011-2025).
I was looking at this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispatches_from_Elsewhere
Its garbage of course. I mean everything is garbage almost and the things that arent are destroyed by this relentless push to privatize or somehow make a botch of some other way..
Whether mundane or even more execrably creative etc these guys think like morons. Far too many of them and they have all the levers of power and exploit the worst tendencies in the species.
And then paradoxically use that as the excuse to despise the people they manipulate or if thats not possible coerce.
Well its awful. I agree with Yasha Levine mostly.
I like DU. But DU and stack exchange aside the internet is garbage as is everything else. But science and reality and earth are always a good bet as are all the things that used to work and were laid to waste by these fuckign morons out of si valley.
I hated my last job.