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JReed

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Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:44 AM Dec 2012

Obama, Democrats Push to Make Bush Spying Laws Permanent [View all]


Oversight Amendments to FISA Crumble in US Senate: Obama, Democrats Push to Make Bush Spying Laws Permanent
Even modest attempts to reign in domestic spying law fail as Senators defend sweeping powers for NSA


- Jon Queally, staff writer

Four separate amendments designed to install oversight mechanisms into the National Intelligence Agency's vast spying capabilities enshrined in the 2008 FISA Amendments Act all failed Thursday with the majority of US Senators insisting that secrecy continues to trump civil liberties in the post 9/11 era.

With a final vote for full passage of the bill expected Friday, the defeat of the amendments spells near complete legalization of domestic spying practices which would have previously been found criminal. First uncovered during the Bush years and slammed by Democrats, the FISA law passed in 2008 gave retroactive immunity to the Bush era abuse and strove to codify the program going forward.

Though he ran against such measures during his first run for president, the secret spying laws have now been embraced fully and championed by President Obama.

Rights groups and advocates of the amendments voiced outrage with the votes.

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http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/12/28
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"Constitutional Scholar" President, woo me with science Dec 2012 #1
"Do we understand the real problem yet, America?" ProSense Dec 2012 #8
Defend this Prosense. woo me with science Dec 2012 #10
Wait ProSense Dec 2012 #11
What are you trying to imply, Prosense? woo me with science Dec 2012 #14
WMWS has accurately described the problem. The USA has, at least for "national security" affairs, byeya Dec 2012 #26
"How dare you. " ProSense Dec 2012 #38
What were the choices? BobbyBoring Dec 2012 #32
Oh please. ProSense Dec 2012 #39
When Bush was proposing these anti-Democratic policies, did you defend them sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #36
Who the hell ProSense Dec 2012 #41
Who the hell is pretending Congress doesn't exist? Ask them how many sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #43
+ Nobel Peace Prize winner leftstreet Dec 2012 #27
That, too! woo me with science Dec 2012 #50
"the Obama legacy": the transformation of what was until recently a symbol of right-wing radicalism Kolesar Dec 2012 #2
I watched CSPAN fredamae Dec 2012 #3
voting now Enrique Dec 2012 #4
Virtually every national pol should be out on their ass and the next crops TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #5
+100000 woo me with science Dec 2012 #17
Yes and now is the time to start. And we have a coalition of organizations sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #37
Right, the time wanes quickly. TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #46
It's something that repubs don't seem to understand Turbineguy Dec 2012 #6
Back in 2007 JReed Dec 2012 #12
If NSA, TSA, or any other agency is listening, "Thank you for doing a great job." AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #7
Thank Gawd It Passed.. Fumesucker Dec 2012 #9
Check your senators vote fredamae Dec 2012 #13
What? Democrats voted for this? woo me with science Dec 2012 #52
Gah, this makes my stomach roll. n/t X_Digger Dec 2012 #15
Parts of USA PATRIOT Act so secret, even Senators can't tell us what's in them. Octafish Dec 2012 #16
Kind of like the TPP. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #18
That's the first thing the came to my mind as well, as evinced by Wyden's complaints. nt Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #20
The Trans-Pacific Partnership? Octafish Dec 2012 #24
Yep. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #40
If it's anything like what the BFEE has done with China, I'm down with it. Octafish Dec 2012 #54
Thank you. nt woo me with science Dec 2012 #49
Somewhere, Osama is laughing. n/t theaocp Dec 2012 #19
This, the wars and gitmo is were I am extremely disappointed with the President. There are GOP ..... marble falls Dec 2012 #21
We'll fix it later! OnyxCollie Dec 2012 #22
Power corrupts..... Swede Atlanta Dec 2012 #23
Yup, and this goes far beyond Obama. woo me with science Dec 2012 #51
The Domestic-Spying Industrial Complex FlyByNight Dec 2012 #25
Can you see the Bottom Yet, 4Q2u2 Dec 2012 #28
When Congress passes a law that is in direct conflict with the Constitution... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #29
America - land of the free Smilo Dec 2012 #30
Why, when Some Democrats vote with Republicans... spedtr90 Dec 2012 #31
I don't see JReed Dec 2012 #45
Obama pushed for this? Sheepshank Dec 2012 #33
Don't expect too much from "Counterpunch" Kolesar Dec 2012 #44
Prime example of corruption in Congress! We no longer have a representative Democracy! Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #34
Abstolutely no surprise there Catherina Dec 2012 #35
+1 woo me with science Dec 2012 #48
Don't worry, this will be completely forgotten by the time Dems need to raise money again. n/t hughee99 Dec 2012 #42
Bush era FISA vs pre-Bush era FISA ieoeja Dec 2012 #47
Update JReed Dec 2012 #53
Kick. Had enough yet, America? woo me with science Dec 2012 #55
Did you see this? JReed Dec 2012 #57
kr HiPointDem Dec 2012 #56
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