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43. They also are not interested in buying an EV

Thu Dec 4, 2025, 02:30 PM

Dec 4

GM CEO Mary Barra said that in order to meet the current standards 50% of sales would need to be EV. She didn't see consumers interested in buying them in those numbers.

(Bloomberg) -- General Motors Co. faced the prospect of needing to cut production of gasoline-fueled vehicles if electric-vehicle sales failed to grow as needed under ambitious fuel economy requirements enacted by President Joe Biden, company Chief Executive Officer Mary Barra said.

Fuel efficiency standards now being rolled back under President Donald Trump would have required a fleet average of about 50 miles per gallon by 2031. That effectively meant that most carmakers would have to get more than half of their sales from EVs by that time.

If those EV sales didn’t materialize — and the rules weren’t reduced by Biden in response — GM would have had to limit sales of gasoline-powered vehicles and possibly shut down some of its production, Barra said at the New York Times Dealbook conference in New York on Wednesday.

“We were going to have to start shutting down plants,” Barra said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/gm-s-barra-says-tough-auto-mileage-rules-risked-plant-shutdowns/ar-AA1REiGC?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=6930ca569a1e44d88d66e91dd8baccca&ei=11

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Sean Duffy on slashing fuel economy standards: "This rule will actually allow you to bring back the 1970s station wagon. [View all] demmiblue Dec 4 OP

Who would want a 1970 station wagon, the Griswald's nt doc03 Dec 4 #1

Just what I've been dreaming of for the last 40 years. Ocelot II Dec 4 #2

There's a wrap for that! demmiblue Dec 4 #6

OMG! Somebody actually figured out a way to make the Cybertruck even uglier. Ocelot II Dec 4 #7

What a terrible day to have eyes Rob H. Dec 4 #30

OMG, perfect! BlueSpot Dec 4 #66

Talk about taking America backwards! Diamond_Dog Dec 4 #3

And why Rebl2 Dec 4 #4

Seats nine and 30% of passengers are in that rear seat always looking backwards. Sounds familiar. dameatball Dec 4 #5

... demmiblue Dec 4 #8

Seats 10. carpetbagger Dec 4 #49

mine was a 73 chevy malabu. metallic green. rampartd Dec 4 #51

PS: FUCK THE ENVIRONMENT. Yours, Sean. nt eppur_se_muova Dec 4 #9

I had a 1986 Caprice Classic Wagon dsc Dec 4 #10

U.S. consumers made their choices. They don't want 70's wagons. They want massive SUV's. kysrsoze Dec 4 #11

They also are not interested in buying an EV MichMan Dec 4 #43

We don't want this kind of choice, Sean. God, this guy's an idiot. travelingthrulife Dec 4 #12

We always had a station wagon when I was growing up. llmart Dec 4 #45

Why did I immediately think of "The Brady Bunch"? They must've had a station wagon. betsuni Dec 4 #13

The first Brady Bunch Station Wagon from a November 1969 episode Wiz Imp Dec 4 #38

I have ForgedCrank Dec 4 #39

Do these idiots really think we want to choose to spend more on gas? Americanme Dec 4 #14

I don't think these idiots "think " at all. Hey Joe Dec 4 #17

Somebody does. I red earlier this year trucks were 17% larger last season travelingthrulife Dec 4 #19

We already did...it's called a Subaru Outback Prairie Gates Dec 4 #15

Actually titled as a station wagon unweird Dec 4 #29

It's def a station wagon Prairie Gates Dec 4 #36

This guy needs to take a long trip purr-rat beauty Dec 4 #16

A couple of days ago my husband commented that by the time Trump is done our air will resemble Vinca Dec 4 #18

I know, right?! yardwork Dec 4 #20

I seem to remember half days from school because of the smog, miyazaki Dec 4 #27

Had one snowybirdie Dec 4 #21

He has 9 kids Wiz Imp Dec 4 #37

Bat shit crazies. Baitball Blogger Dec 4 #22

Auto companies will go bankrupt if they try building them. Nobody but a handful RockRaven Dec 4 #23

Hey Sean! Why not ban catalytic converters no_hypocrisy Dec 4 #24

The 1970s was probably the worst decade for American cars in the last 75 years. So why would we want to revisit it? yellowcanine Dec 4 #25

Maybe they'll bring back the Pinto! jmbar2 Dec 4 #26

Now. Now Junipercity Dec 4 #53

They are actually pretty cool cars jmbar2 Dec 4 #60

Ford's better idea. VGNonly Dec 4 #58

Bwa Ha Ha - what is that clip from? jmbar2 Dec 4 #61

Top Secret VGNonly Dec 5 #67

We had a Pinto wagon - complete with wood sides tinrobot Dec 4 #63

he will also bring back 1970s air pollution DBoon Dec 4 #28

Cool, will it get rid of seat belts, too? tanyev Dec 4 #31

Faux paneling? get the red out Dec 4 #32

Ah, the Griswold Family Truckster! ThoughtCriminal Dec 4 #33

And bench front seats with fake leather and no airbags The Madcap Dec 4 #34

With a single-pane real glass windshield and no seal belts dalton99a Dec 4 #35

Hang on for a second here...1970s station wagon? jmowreader Dec 4 #40

The 1970's Station Wagon averaged 12 mpg highway. 22 gallon tank haele Dec 4 #41

I read through all the posts before seeing you refer to them as a "woodie". llmart Dec 4 #46

"F*ck the environment!" -Duffy, probably sakabatou Dec 4 #42

Isn't that just a minivan? Or a large SUV? Arazi Dec 4 #44

You could get Woody panels on the PT Cruiser in the 2000's haele Dec 4 #50

The Bulgemobiles of Bruce McCall Kid Berwyn Dec 4 #47

Now, if Trump & Duffy can bring back the Pinto LetMyPeopleVote Dec 4 #48

The Corvair, too! Ocelot II Dec 4 #52

This isn't some cornball perfect white America TV show you dolt. underpants Dec 4 #54

Stagflation comes standard NickB79 Dec 4 #55

will he bring back waiting in line for gasoline? DBoon Dec 4 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author SamuelTheThird Dec 4 #57

I took my driver's test in a 1978 Malibu wagon with wood siding. I really loved driving that car. beaglelover Dec 4 #59

1972 gold Ford Country Sedan wagon here. maxsolomon Dec 4 #65

You mean a 460 cubic inch big block with 212 horsepower? Pushing 4500 lbs of Country Squire? flvegan Dec 4 #62

He's such a dumbass. Yes, and maybe moms will wear gloves and a hat to car pool as well! Iris Dec 4 #64