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getagrip_already

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38. that is very true, but a primary, especially in a special, is a very progressive race...

Thu Dec 4, 2025, 03:52 PM

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It doesn't mean the primary winner can't win a general election of course. But the voters who turn out are among the most progressive and active voters in the party. It can skew the choice into an unwinnable race. We see this all the time with gop candidates in progressive districts; they put up the redist candidate on the block.

The general election candidate faces a much different population than they did in the primary. And that candidate needs to resonate with the general election voters.

But given this district, there is probably no candidate thhat could have beat a solid republican. But that isn't the case everywhere.

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So I waited until the dust settled after the TN election to suggest this, but.... [View all] senseandsensibility Yesterday OP

Im pretty sure Boo1 Yesterday #1

Wow. senseandsensibility Yesterday #4

I agree LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #28

Agree and its the same with Tennessee aeromanKC Yesterday #2

I actually confused TN with KY in my OP at first senseandsensibility Yesterday #6

Everyone makes mistakes MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #42

Thanks senseandsensibility Yesterday #50

It was Tennessee and she won a primary against 3 other Democrats Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #3

Fixed it senseandsensibility Yesterday #7

Good! n/t Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #8

Progressive Democrats should definetly run ... PBC_Democrat Yesterday #37

Gillum didn't lose because he was a progressive. carpetbagger Yesterday #54

Aftyn Behn won 78.8% of the Nashville vote on Tuesday. Tanuki Yesterday #59

I agree that Graham would have beaten DeathSantis LetMyPeopleVote 23 hrs ago #69

That narrative is what gets me in trouble with Democrats. gab13by13 Yesterday #5

I'm personally for the most liberal candidate in almost all situations senseandsensibility Yesterday #10

Give me one example where the DNC said gab13by13 Yesterday #16

I'm guessing that there are Bettie Yesterday #31

I don't really care what the DNC thinks senseandsensibility Yesterday #32

i saw them tank a progressive for a moderate. they lost. we got roscum. mopinko 23 hrs ago #65

I'm with you gab Docreed2003 Yesterday #48

I kind of doubt it. yardwork Yesterday #9

Yes, I agree that the more progressive senseandsensibility Yesterday #11

I think that's what we need. yardwork Yesterday #13

Agree 👍 anciano Yesterday #12

Wresting power from the Republican party Alsteen Yesterday #14

No n/t leftstreet Yesterday #15

You just said what I was trying to say. gab13by13 Yesterday #18

NO... 2naSalit Yesterday #17

So a candidate that ran a Bernie type campaign Emile Yesterday #19

My whole OP was a question senseandsensibility Yesterday #20

You should ask Jason Kanew n/t leftstreet Yesterday #21

Passive aggressives use questions to push a point. Bobstandard 23 hrs ago #62

So you're calling me passive aggressive without actually doing so? senseandsensibility 23 hrs ago #64

Thicker skin. Shorter fuse. Bobstandard 23 hrs ago #66

I think you answered your own question.... getagrip_already Yesterday #26

I'm sorry, but the only ones doing a purity test Emile Yesterday #30

how so? getagrip_already Yesterday #40

So the only ones that do purity tests are progressives. Emile Yesterday #49

She won the primary. returnee Yesterday #34

that is very true, but a primary, especially in a special, is a very progressive race... getagrip_already Yesterday #38

Probably correct. It's hard to make predictions based upon a special election with significantly lower turnout Silent Type Yesterday #22

Probably not. It wasn't a winnable district Jose Garcia Yesterday #23

Good question: Aftyn Behn would have done better or won, Ars Longa Yesterday #24

I didn't hear about the country music thing until the day after the election senseandsensibility Yesterday #27

I love country music. returnee Yesterday #35

Old country was OK- Modern "Bro Country" sounds like has been Ars Longa Yesterday #43

Yes, give me Willie and Waylon and Johnny Cash and Dolly senseandsensibility Yesterday #47

I go back to Appalachian folk ballads and fiddle tunes... returnee 22 hrs ago #72

Merle Haggard? Liberal? returnee 22 hrs ago #73

By "these days" I take it you mean the last quarter century? johnp3907 17 hrs ago #84

I really doubt it mvd Yesterday #25

Republican-lite always loses to a real Republican Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #29

Harry Truman Emile 23 hrs ago #63

Exactly correct Deminpenn 23 hrs ago #67

Seems a bit irrelevant... EarlG Yesterday #33

You nailed it MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #45

It's true that rehashing would have been could have been scenarios senseandsensibility Yesterday #53

"...old markodochartaigh Yesterday #57

Plenty of red state moderate incumbents have lost to MAGA Republicans over the years IronLionZion Yesterday #36

What are the actual examples of progressive winning in deep red states? RoeVWade Yesterday #39

Was the lack of voter turnout an issue? czarjak Yesterday #41

No. They said the same things about the moderate dem candidates here. 2 Meow Momma Yesterday #44

No...absolutely not Docreed2003 Yesterday #46

This +1 Emile Yesterday #52

Her message was very mainstream. Bluetus 23 hrs ago #60

I never said that she was "too progressive" Docreed2003 22 hrs ago #71

My apologies. You are correct. I replied to the wrong post Bluetus 18 hrs ago #78

It didn't help that she was female. Beshear is liberal, but he is a white man and he wins everywhere in KY Wanderlust988 Yesterday #51

Sadly, I'm sure that was a factor. senseandsensibility Yesterday #56

It was highly highly unlikely that we were going to win it ibegurpard Yesterday #55

No. Nashville/Davidson County's rock solid Democratic congressional district Tanuki Yesterday #58

Thanks senseandsensibility 23 hrs ago #61

The election in a deep red district, and the outcome, is scaring the hell out of the white supremacy Tr**plicans. NNadir 23 hrs ago #68

We've been running to the center for 45 years. Gore1FL 23 hrs ago #70

There have been many moderate southern Dems over the past few decades. Wanderlust988 19 hrs ago #74

Never heard of Jasmine Crockett? Emile 18 hrs ago #77

She's in a very Democratic district Wanderlust988 17 hrs ago #81

Used to be a very democratic district. Emile 17 hrs ago #82

I want what you are smoking. Even Jasmine knows this and will likely run for the Senate Wanderlust988 17 hrs ago #85

Keep your personal judgement against fellow duers, Emile 9 hrs ago #87

Maybe we should try; I remember similar arguments regarding what was possible in 2008. Gore1FL 17 hrs ago #83

Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock won in Georgia...but they are male Wanderlust988 19 hrs ago #75

No matter how 'moderate' the candidate is, the GQP will label them "socialist communist fascist radical left Jack Valentino 18 hrs ago #76

Done better perhaps, but not won Justice Brandeis 18 hrs ago #79

There are different meanings of "progressive" and "moderate". MervinFerd 18 hrs ago #80

What does "moderate" even mean in this context? Crunchy Frog 17 hrs ago #86