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ibegurpard

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55. It was highly highly unlikely that we were going to win it

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Thu Dec 4, 2025, 04:20 PM

17 hrs ago

Gerrymandering has become a surgical procedure with all of the data available now.
Cracking Nashville into 3 highly Republican suburban and rural areas was extremely effective and it's why they're trying so hard to do that everywhere.
Progressive vs. moderate has become a pointless argument. What we need is authenticity, grit, and fight. She had those things and she did as well as I think anyone could've done in that district.

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So I waited until the dust settled after the TN election to suggest this, but.... [View all] senseandsensibility 19 hrs ago OP

Im pretty sure Boo1 19 hrs ago #1

Wow. senseandsensibility 19 hrs ago #4

I agree LetMyPeopleVote 18 hrs ago #28

Agree and its the same with Tennessee aeromanKC 19 hrs ago #2

I actually confused TN with KY in my OP at first senseandsensibility 19 hrs ago #6

Everyone makes mistakes MustLoveBeagles 18 hrs ago #42

Thanks senseandsensibility 17 hrs ago #50

It was Tennessee and she won a primary against 3 other Democrats Just_Vote_Dem 19 hrs ago #3

Fixed it senseandsensibility 19 hrs ago #7

Good! n/t Just_Vote_Dem 19 hrs ago #8

Progressive Democrats should definetly run ... PBC_Democrat 18 hrs ago #37

Gillum didn't lose because he was a progressive. carpetbagger 17 hrs ago #54

Aftyn Behn won 78.8% of the Nashville vote on Tuesday. Tanuki 17 hrs ago #59

I agree that Graham would have beaten DeathSantis LetMyPeopleVote 17 hrs ago #69

That narrative is what gets me in trouble with Democrats. gab13by13 19 hrs ago #5

I'm personally for the most liberal candidate in almost all situations senseandsensibility 19 hrs ago #10

Give me one example where the DNC said gab13by13 18 hrs ago #16

I'm guessing that there are Bettie 18 hrs ago #31

I don't really care what the DNC thinks senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #32

i saw them tank a progressive for a moderate. they lost. we got roscum. mopinko 17 hrs ago #65

I'm with you gab Docreed2003 17 hrs ago #48

I kind of doubt it. yardwork 19 hrs ago #9

Yes, I agree that the more progressive senseandsensibility 19 hrs ago #11

I think that's what we need. yardwork 18 hrs ago #13

Agree 👍 anciano 18 hrs ago #12

Wresting power from the Republican party Alsteen 18 hrs ago #14

No n/t leftstreet 18 hrs ago #15

You just said what I was trying to say. gab13by13 18 hrs ago #18

NO... 2naSalit 18 hrs ago #17

So a candidate that ran a Bernie type campaign Emile 18 hrs ago #19

My whole OP was a question senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #20

You should ask Jason Kanew n/t leftstreet 18 hrs ago #21

Passive aggressives use questions to push a point. Bobstandard 17 hrs ago #62

So you're calling me passive aggressive without actually doing so? senseandsensibility 17 hrs ago #64

Thicker skin. Shorter fuse. Bobstandard 17 hrs ago #66

I think you answered your own question.... getagrip_already 18 hrs ago #26

I'm sorry, but the only ones doing a purity test Emile 18 hrs ago #30

how so? getagrip_already 18 hrs ago #40

So the only ones that do purity tests are progressives. Emile 17 hrs ago #49

She won the primary. returnee 18 hrs ago #34

that is very true, but a primary, especially in a special, is a very progressive race... getagrip_already 18 hrs ago #38

Probably correct. It's hard to make predictions based upon a special election with significantly lower turnout Silent Type 18 hrs ago #22

Probably not. It wasn't a winnable district Jose Garcia 18 hrs ago #23

Good question: Aftyn Behn would have done better or won, Ars Longa 18 hrs ago #24

I didn't hear about the country music thing until the day after the election senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #27

I love country music. returnee 18 hrs ago #35

Old country was OK- Modern "Bro Country" sounds like has been Ars Longa 18 hrs ago #43

Yes, give me Willie and Waylon and Johnny Cash and Dolly senseandsensibility 17 hrs ago #47

I go back to Appalachian folk ballads and fiddle tunes... returnee 15 hrs ago #72

Merle Haggard? Liberal? returnee 15 hrs ago #73

By "these days" I take it you mean the last quarter century? johnp3907 11 hrs ago #84

I really doubt it mvd 18 hrs ago #25

Republican-lite always loses to a real Republican Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #29

Harry Truman Emile 17 hrs ago #63

Exactly correct Deminpenn 17 hrs ago #67

Seems a bit irrelevant... EarlG 18 hrs ago #33

You nailed it MustLoveBeagles 17 hrs ago #45

It's true that rehashing would have been could have been scenarios senseandsensibility 17 hrs ago #53

"...old markodochartaigh 17 hrs ago #57

Plenty of red state moderate incumbents have lost to MAGA Republicans over the years IronLionZion 18 hrs ago #36

What are the actual examples of progressive winning in deep red states? RoeVWade 18 hrs ago #39

Was the lack of voter turnout an issue? czarjak 18 hrs ago #41

No. They said the same things about the moderate dem candidates here. 2 Meow Momma 18 hrs ago #44

No...absolutely not Docreed2003 17 hrs ago #46

This +1 Emile 17 hrs ago #52

Her message was very mainstream. Bluetus 17 hrs ago #60

I never said that she was "too progressive" Docreed2003 16 hrs ago #71

My apologies. You are correct. I replied to the wrong post Bluetus 12 hrs ago #78

It didn't help that she was female. Beshear is liberal, but he is a white man and he wins everywhere in KY Wanderlust988 17 hrs ago #51

Sadly, I'm sure that was a factor. senseandsensibility 17 hrs ago #56

It was highly highly unlikely that we were going to win it ibegurpard 17 hrs ago #55

No. Nashville/Davidson County's rock solid Democratic congressional district Tanuki 17 hrs ago #58

Thanks senseandsensibility 17 hrs ago #61

The election in a deep red district, and the outcome, is scaring the hell out of the white supremacy Tr**plicans. NNadir 17 hrs ago #68

We've been running to the center for 45 years. Gore1FL 17 hrs ago #70

There have been many moderate southern Dems over the past few decades. Wanderlust988 12 hrs ago #74

Never heard of Jasmine Crockett? Emile 12 hrs ago #77

She's in a very Democratic district Wanderlust988 11 hrs ago #81

Used to be a very democratic district. Emile 11 hrs ago #82

I want what you are smoking. Even Jasmine knows this and will likely run for the Senate Wanderlust988 10 hrs ago #85

Keep your personal judgement against fellow duers, Emile 2 hrs ago #87

Maybe we should try; I remember similar arguments regarding what was possible in 2008. Gore1FL 11 hrs ago #83

Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock won in Georgia...but they are male Wanderlust988 12 hrs ago #75

No matter how 'moderate' the candidate is, the GQP will label them "socialist communist fascist radical left Jack Valentino 12 hrs ago #76

Done better perhaps, but not won Justice Brandeis 11 hrs ago #79

There are different meanings of "progressive" and "moderate". MervinFerd 11 hrs ago #80

What does "moderate" even mean in this context? Crunchy Frog 10 hrs ago #86