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Blasphemer

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4. He's swinging to the center way too soon

Thu Dec 4, 2025, 10:53 PM

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IF we have elections in 2028, the GOP will be in tatars. It will be like 2008 (if not worse) for them. I'd hold off on making presumptions about what messaging will work 3 years from now. I suspect Dems will have great leeway in the kind of platform that can be successful.

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Gov Newsome triangulating again. [View all] Shipwack Yesterday OP

WTF is "culturally normal?" leftstreet Yesterday #1

I would say this is a great example of what he's talking about. Nixie 21 hrs ago #14

Code for "don't talk about trans or non-binary rights"? LudwigPastorius 21 hrs ago #15

rich White male "christian" LuvLoogie 7 hrs ago #82

I think he's saying we need better messaging to get our values out..more on point Deuxcents Yesterday #2

Can't say at this point whether that's right or wrong AS FAR AS winning some states we need in 2028. I hate Silent Type Yesterday #3

He's swinging to the center way too soon Blasphemer Yesterday #4

2026 comes first. maxsolomon 10 hrs ago #64

Ok. What is culturally normal? Raven123 Yesterday #5

You know what it is. maxsolomon 10 hrs ago #65

The implication of Newsom's other sentences is "it's anti-immigration" muriel_volestrangler 10 hrs ago #68

First, please spell his name right. usonian Yesterday #6

What is "wildly" successful? awesomerwb1 12 hrs ago #44

Bernie Sanders Packed an Arena in ... Utah usonian 12 hrs ago #46

That's great awesomerwb1 12 hrs ago #48

You have to ask them. usonian 12 hrs ago #50

It would be interesting data to have awesomerwb1 12 hrs ago #54

I caught some videos of the tour, and people said they were flipping. usonian 10 hrs ago #63

"Proof"? awesomerwb1 10 hrs ago #66

I see his point Justice Brandeis Yesterday #7

Exactly the point. We don't have to shove people's noses Bluetus 23 hrs ago #8

Most of those things aren't even popular among Democrats gulliver 23 hrs ago #11

. WhiskeyGrinder 14 hrs ago #28

It's part of health care. It doesn't have to be called out as a special issue. Fix healthcare for everyone, incl trans beaglelover 9 hrs ago #74

When Republicans object to trans health care, should Democrats defend it, or fold because it's a niche cultural issue? WhiskeyGrinder 8 hrs ago #79

They can just say trans health care is included in our health care plans. No need to dwell on it. beaglelover 8 hrs ago #80

A lot of those things are exaggerated by the right wing JI7 21 hrs ago #13

I don't see data on those who don't vote, they're going after swing voters which are expensive iirc uponit7771 17 hrs ago #16

I can't think of a single Democrat who doesn't use pronouns. WhiskeyGrinder 14 hrs ago #26

I'm a Democrat. I don't have my pronouns in my work signature. maxsolomon 10 hrs ago #69

Well stated. Sounds like Sunday morning at my church. LAS14 12 hrs ago #53

When the right wants to strip trans people of rights, if not outright physically harm them TheProle 6 hrs ago #94

N E W S O M Skittles 23 hrs ago #9

*WE* have to be less judgmental??? Skittles 23 hrs ago #10

Being judgemental isn't the problem LuvLoogie 7 hrs ago #83

We have to do whatever we need to win JI7 22 hrs ago #12

His surname is spelled Newsom Niagara 16 hrs ago #17

I applaud the OP for posting the Huff Post article in GD muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #18

There's sources posted here that are not reliable at all Niagara 16 hrs ago #20

I don't see that the bit you added before excuses what he said muriel_volestrangler 14 hrs ago #21

Oh, only RW'ers are judgemental on issues? Niagara 14 hrs ago #24

In the grand scheme of things, yes, only Republican politicians are judgmental. muriel_volestrangler 14 hrs ago #25

We are judgmental of Nazis and fascists, nothing wrong with that. They are judgmental of non whites- big problem Blues Heron 14 hrs ago #29

Presidents Obama and Clinton triangulated. President Biden did not. Jose Garcia 16 hrs ago #19

Biden stepped down after being hounded out by Clooney et al Blues Heron 14 hrs ago #32

And a litany of party leaders. BannonsLiver 14 hrs ago #38

Et al Blues Heron 14 hrs ago #39

He was on his way to a lanndslide loss Jose Garcia 13 hrs ago #41

He would have won -he's the only one to defeat Trump. Giving up incumbency was highly stupid. Blues Heron 13 hrs ago #42

After that idiot took a pot shot at MFer, the die was cast. maxsolomon 8 hrs ago #75

Dems need to find 80/20 issues they can hammer on GreatGazoo 14 hrs ago #22

All my lefty family members are tired of the pronoun thing mainer 14 hrs ago #23

Which Democratic candidates were demanding that? muriel_volestrangler 14 hrs ago #27

I'm not referring to particular candidates mainer 12 hrs ago #43

So this is not about Democrats, ie what Newsom was talking about. muriel_volestrangler 12 hrs ago #47

... BannonsLiver 14 hrs ago #35

Culturally normal another way to say the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?? NoMoreRepugs 14 hrs ago #30

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He's not wrong. BannonsLiver 14 hrs ago #33

So is he pushing a purity test for the party? Emile 14 hrs ago #34

The opposite, actually. BannonsLiver 14 hrs ago #36

LOL, I don't think so! Emile 14 hrs ago #37

If you say so. BannonsLiver 14 hrs ago #40

I know exactly what you're referring to. maxsolomon 10 hrs ago #70

It's verboten to discuss but you are of course correct. BannonsLiver 7 hrs ago #87

He's saying to drop the purity tests. Nixie 12 hrs ago #45

I guess it depends on which side of the political spectrum Emile 12 hrs ago #49

He's definitely not on the spectrum that alienates voters with Nixie 12 hrs ago #51

As I said, it depends on what side of the political spectrum your on. Emile 12 hrs ago #52

We've all seen enough of this insistence and labeling of Nixie 12 hrs ago #55

See my post #56. nt LAS14 12 hrs ago #57

Purity tests, on which side of the spectrum are you talking about? Emile 12 hrs ago #58

Centrist is really the obvious purity test. A way of smearing our candidates Nixie 11 hrs ago #60

Then if centrist is a smear, why do some politicians call themselves centrist? Emile 11 hrs ago #61

The purity test smear is obviously that being normal, as in not being Nixie 9 hrs ago #71

Are you saying , if you are not a centrist, you are fringe? Emile 9 hrs ago #73

Denying there is a political middle isn't "progressive." Nixie 6 hrs ago #93

You still haven't answered my two questions. Emile 6 hrs ago #95

I doubt you need my answers to any of your distractions to Nixie 4 hrs ago #97

You just described a purity test! Thank you! Emile 4 hrs ago #98

Your contrived set up was the purity test. Just run a candidate because Nixie 4 hrs ago #99

You do know there are 6 wings to the democratic party? Emile 4 hrs ago #100

Oh Nixie 3 hrs ago #101

Just being literal. Emile 3 hrs ago #102

Centrist/establishment/status quo/corporate Dems: anti-progressive, corrupt, elite Them. Us: Righteous victims. betsuni 9 hrs ago #72

Curiosity here - not trying to make a point. LAS14 12 hrs ago #56

I think Democrats should make your point - that public Democrats are not leading with those issues muriel_volestrangler 10 hrs ago #67

Gov. Newsom has been left behind in his judgement of what's "Culturally Normal" justaprogressive 11 hrs ago #59

He's buying into RW framing again MustLoveBeagles 11 hrs ago #62

He was doing well, now I'm not impressed. Emile 6 hrs ago #89

I'm not either MustLoveBeagles 6 hrs ago #90

Alienating part of the party is not going to win elections. Emile 6 hrs ago #91

No it isn't MustLoveBeagles 6 hrs ago #92

We lead with tolerance bucolic_frolic 8 hrs ago #76

Focusing on the wrong things all the time. BlueTsunami2018 8 hrs ago #77

Would that also be the response when a member of that community asks one of our politicians how they feel about them? BannonsLiver 8 hrs ago #81

If you think he's staking out territory well, what do you think his answer would be muriel_volestrangler 7 hrs ago #84

He answered that in his podcast some were pressed about in March. BannonsLiver 7 hrs ago #85

Give me a link muriel_volestrangler 7 hrs ago #86

Newsom, no 'e'. RandySF 8 hrs ago #78

very telling it has not been fixed Skittles 7 hrs ago #88

I, for one, will never vote for him in the primary if he runs. demmiblue 5 hrs ago #96

Let's see... MorbidButterflyTat 3 hrs ago #103

But they work really hard on it, like washing machines. betsuni 3 hrs ago #105

+1, yes, so desperate to continue the coveted victimization Nixie 1 hr ago #106

What are the rules to being more culturally normal? Emile 3 hrs ago #104

To me The Bopper 8 min ago #107