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Jose Garcia

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19. Presidents Obama and Clinton triangulated. President Biden did not.

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Fri Dec 5, 2025, 07:17 AM

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Clinton and Obama were elected to second terms. Biden was not.

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Gov Newsome triangulating again. [View all] Shipwack 17 hrs ago OP

WTF is "culturally normal?" leftstreet 16 hrs ago #1

I would say this is a great example of what he's talking about. Nixie 14 hrs ago #14

Code for "don't talk about trans or non-binary rights"? LudwigPastorius 13 hrs ago #15

rich White male "christian" LuvLoogie 7 min ago #82

I think he's saying we need better messaging to get our values out..more on point Deuxcents 16 hrs ago #2

Can't say at this point whether that's right or wrong AS FAR AS winning some states we need in 2028. I hate Silent Type 16 hrs ago #3

He's swinging to the center way too soon Blasphemer 16 hrs ago #4

2026 comes first. maxsolomon 3 hrs ago #64

Ok. What is culturally normal? Raven123 16 hrs ago #5

You know what it is. maxsolomon 3 hrs ago #65

The implication of Newsom's other sentences is "it's anti-immigration" muriel_volestrangler 2 hrs ago #68

First, please spell his name right. usonian 16 hrs ago #6

What is "wildly" successful? awesomerwb1 4 hrs ago #44

Bernie Sanders Packed an Arena in ... Utah usonian 4 hrs ago #46

That's great awesomerwb1 4 hrs ago #48

You have to ask them. usonian 4 hrs ago #50

It would be interesting data to have awesomerwb1 4 hrs ago #54

I caught some videos of the tour, and people said they were flipping. usonian 3 hrs ago #63

"Proof"? awesomerwb1 2 hrs ago #66

I see his point Justice Brandeis 16 hrs ago #7

Exactly the point. We don't have to shove people's noses Bluetus 16 hrs ago #8

Most of those things aren't even popular among Democrats gulliver 15 hrs ago #11

. WhiskeyGrinder 6 hrs ago #28

It's part of health care. It doesn't have to be called out as a special issue. Fix healthcare for everyone, incl trans beaglelover 1 hr ago #74

When Republicans object to trans health care, should Democrats defend it, or fold because it's a niche cultural issue? WhiskeyGrinder 37 min ago #79

They can just say trans health care is included in our health care plans. No need to dwell on it. beaglelover 20 min ago #80

A lot of those things are exaggerated by the right wing JI7 14 hrs ago #13

I don't see data on those who don't vote, they're going after swing voters which are expensive iirc uponit7771 9 hrs ago #16

I can't think of a single Democrat who doesn't use pronouns. WhiskeyGrinder 6 hrs ago #26

I'm a Democrat. I don't have my pronouns in my work signature. maxsolomon 2 hrs ago #69

Well stated. Sounds like Sunday morning at my church. LAS14 4 hrs ago #53

N E W S O M Skittles 15 hrs ago #9

*WE* have to be less judgmental??? Skittles 15 hrs ago #10

Being judgemental isn't the problem LuvLoogie 1 min ago #83

We have to do whatever we need to win JI7 14 hrs ago #12

His surname is spelled Newsom Niagara 8 hrs ago #17

I applaud the OP for posting the Huff Post article in GD muriel_volestrangler 8 hrs ago #18

There's sources posted here that are not reliable at all Niagara 8 hrs ago #20

I don't see that the bit you added before excuses what he said muriel_volestrangler 6 hrs ago #21

Oh, only RW'ers are judgemental on issues? Niagara 6 hrs ago #24

In the grand scheme of things, yes, only Republican politicians are judgmental. muriel_volestrangler 6 hrs ago #25

We are judgmental of Nazis and fascists, nothing wrong with that. They are judgmental of non whites- big problem Blues Heron 6 hrs ago #29

Presidents Obama and Clinton triangulated. President Biden did not. Jose Garcia 8 hrs ago #19

Biden stepped down after being hounded out by Clooney et al Blues Heron 6 hrs ago #32

And a litany of party leaders. BannonsLiver 6 hrs ago #38

Et al Blues Heron 6 hrs ago #39

He was on his way to a lanndslide loss Jose Garcia 5 hrs ago #41

He would have won -he's the only one to defeat Trump. Giving up incumbency was highly stupid. Blues Heron 5 hrs ago #42

After that idiot took a pot shot at MFer, the die was cast. maxsolomon 1 hr ago #75

Dems need to find 80/20 issues they can hammer on GreatGazoo 6 hrs ago #22

All my lefty family members are tired of the pronoun thing mainer 6 hrs ago #23

Which Democratic candidates were demanding that? muriel_volestrangler 6 hrs ago #27

I'm not referring to particular candidates mainer 4 hrs ago #43

So this is not about Democrats, ie what Newsom was talking about. muriel_volestrangler 4 hrs ago #47

... BannonsLiver 6 hrs ago #35

Culturally normal another way to say the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?? NoMoreRepugs 6 hrs ago #30

Post removed Post removed 6 hrs ago #31

He's not wrong. BannonsLiver 6 hrs ago #33

So is he pushing a purity test for the party? Emile 6 hrs ago #34

The opposite, actually. BannonsLiver 6 hrs ago #36

LOL, I don't think so! Emile 6 hrs ago #37

If you say so. BannonsLiver 6 hrs ago #40

I know exactly what you're referring to. maxsolomon 2 hrs ago #70

He's saying to drop the purity tests. Nixie 4 hrs ago #45

I guess it depends on which side of the political spectrum Emile 4 hrs ago #49

He's definitely not on the spectrum that alienates voters with Nixie 4 hrs ago #51

As I said, it depends on what side of the political spectrum your on. Emile 4 hrs ago #52

We've all seen enough of this insistence and labeling of Nixie 4 hrs ago #55

See my post #56. nt LAS14 4 hrs ago #57

Purity tests, on which side of the spectrum are you talking about? Emile 4 hrs ago #58

Centrist is really the obvious purity test. A way of smearing our candidates Nixie 3 hrs ago #60

Then if centrist is a smear, why do some politicians call themselves centrist? Emile 3 hrs ago #61

The purity test smear is obviously that being normal, as in not being Nixie 1 hr ago #71

Are you saying , if you are not a centrist, you are fringe? Emile 1 hr ago #73

Centrist/establishment/status quo/corporate Dems: anti-progressive, corrupt, elite Them. Us: Righteous victims. betsuni 1 hr ago #72

Curiosity here - not trying to make a point. LAS14 4 hrs ago #56

I think Democrats should make your point - that public Democrats are not leading with those issues muriel_volestrangler 2 hrs ago #67

Gov. Newsom has been left behind in his judgement of what's "Culturally Normal" justaprogressive 4 hrs ago #59

He's buying into RW framing again MustLoveBeagles 3 hrs ago #62

We lead with tolerance bucolic_frolic 51 min ago #76

Focusing on the wrong things all the time. BlueTsunami2018 42 min ago #77

Would that also be the response when a member of that community asks one of our politicians how they feel about them? BannonsLiver 20 min ago #81

Newsom, no 'e'. RandySF 41 min ago #78