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LAS14

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53. Well stated. Sounds like Sunday morning at my church.

Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:16 AM

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One doesn't have to pick these issues out to lead with in order to vote or act on the right side when they come up. But my church leads with them. All three.

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Gov Newsome triangulating again. [View all] Shipwack 19 hrs ago OP

WTF is "culturally normal?" leftstreet 19 hrs ago #1

I would say this is a great example of what he's talking about. Nixie 16 hrs ago #14

Code for "don't talk about trans or non-binary rights"? LudwigPastorius 16 hrs ago #15

rich White male "christian" LuvLoogie 2 hrs ago #82

I think he's saying we need better messaging to get our values out..more on point Deuxcents 19 hrs ago #2

Can't say at this point whether that's right or wrong AS FAR AS winning some states we need in 2028. I hate Silent Type 19 hrs ago #3

He's swinging to the center way too soon Blasphemer 19 hrs ago #4

2026 comes first. maxsolomon 5 hrs ago #64

Ok. What is culturally normal? Raven123 19 hrs ago #5

You know what it is. maxsolomon 5 hrs ago #65

The implication of Newsom's other sentences is "it's anti-immigration" muriel_volestrangler 5 hrs ago #68

First, please spell his name right. usonian 19 hrs ago #6

What is "wildly" successful? awesomerwb1 7 hrs ago #44

Bernie Sanders Packed an Arena in ... Utah usonian 7 hrs ago #46

That's great awesomerwb1 7 hrs ago #48

You have to ask them. usonian 6 hrs ago #50

It would be interesting data to have awesomerwb1 6 hrs ago #54

I caught some videos of the tour, and people said they were flipping. usonian 5 hrs ago #63

"Proof"? awesomerwb1 5 hrs ago #66

I see his point Justice Brandeis 18 hrs ago #7

Exactly the point. We don't have to shove people's noses Bluetus 18 hrs ago #8

Most of those things aren't even popular among Democrats gulliver 17 hrs ago #11

. WhiskeyGrinder 8 hrs ago #28

It's part of health care. It doesn't have to be called out as a special issue. Fix healthcare for everyone, incl trans beaglelover 3 hrs ago #74

When Republicans object to trans health care, should Democrats defend it, or fold because it's a niche cultural issue? WhiskeyGrinder 3 hrs ago #79

They can just say trans health care is included in our health care plans. No need to dwell on it. beaglelover 2 hrs ago #80

A lot of those things are exaggerated by the right wing JI7 16 hrs ago #13

I don't see data on those who don't vote, they're going after swing voters which are expensive iirc uponit7771 11 hrs ago #16

I can't think of a single Democrat who doesn't use pronouns. WhiskeyGrinder 8 hrs ago #26

I'm a Democrat. I don't have my pronouns in my work signature. maxsolomon 5 hrs ago #69

Well stated. Sounds like Sunday morning at my church. LAS14 6 hrs ago #53

When the right wants to strip trans people of rights, if not outright physically harm them TheProle 1 hr ago #94

N E W S O M Skittles 18 hrs ago #9

*WE* have to be less judgmental??? Skittles 18 hrs ago #10

Being judgemental isn't the problem LuvLoogie 2 hrs ago #83

We have to do whatever we need to win JI7 16 hrs ago #12

His surname is spelled Newsom Niagara 11 hrs ago #17

I applaud the OP for posting the Huff Post article in GD muriel_volestrangler 10 hrs ago #18

There's sources posted here that are not reliable at all Niagara 10 hrs ago #20

I don't see that the bit you added before excuses what he said muriel_volestrangler 9 hrs ago #21

Oh, only RW'ers are judgemental on issues? Niagara 9 hrs ago #24

In the grand scheme of things, yes, only Republican politicians are judgmental. muriel_volestrangler 8 hrs ago #25

We are judgmental of Nazis and fascists, nothing wrong with that. They are judgmental of non whites- big problem Blues Heron 8 hrs ago #29

Presidents Obama and Clinton triangulated. President Biden did not. Jose Garcia 10 hrs ago #19

Biden stepped down after being hounded out by Clooney et al Blues Heron 8 hrs ago #32

And a litany of party leaders. BannonsLiver 8 hrs ago #38

Et al Blues Heron 8 hrs ago #39

He was on his way to a lanndslide loss Jose Garcia 8 hrs ago #41

He would have won -he's the only one to defeat Trump. Giving up incumbency was highly stupid. Blues Heron 8 hrs ago #42

After that idiot took a pot shot at MFer, the die was cast. maxsolomon 3 hrs ago #75

Dems need to find 80/20 issues they can hammer on GreatGazoo 9 hrs ago #22

All my lefty family members are tired of the pronoun thing mainer 9 hrs ago #23

Which Democratic candidates were demanding that? muriel_volestrangler 8 hrs ago #27

I'm not referring to particular candidates mainer 7 hrs ago #43

So this is not about Democrats, ie what Newsom was talking about. muriel_volestrangler 7 hrs ago #47

... BannonsLiver 8 hrs ago #35

Culturally normal another way to say the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?? NoMoreRepugs 8 hrs ago #30

Post removed Post removed 8 hrs ago #31

He's not wrong. BannonsLiver 8 hrs ago #33

So is he pushing a purity test for the party? Emile 8 hrs ago #34

The opposite, actually. BannonsLiver 8 hrs ago #36

LOL, I don't think so! Emile 8 hrs ago #37

If you say so. BannonsLiver 8 hrs ago #40

I know exactly what you're referring to. maxsolomon 5 hrs ago #70

It's verboten to discuss but you are of course correct. BannonsLiver 1 hr ago #87

He's saying to drop the purity tests. Nixie 7 hrs ago #45

I guess it depends on which side of the political spectrum Emile 7 hrs ago #49

He's definitely not on the spectrum that alienates voters with Nixie 6 hrs ago #51

As I said, it depends on what side of the political spectrum your on. Emile 6 hrs ago #52

We've all seen enough of this insistence and labeling of Nixie 6 hrs ago #55

See my post #56. nt LAS14 6 hrs ago #57

Purity tests, on which side of the spectrum are you talking about? Emile 6 hrs ago #58

Centrist is really the obvious purity test. A way of smearing our candidates Nixie 6 hrs ago #60

Then if centrist is a smear, why do some politicians call themselves centrist? Emile 6 hrs ago #61

The purity test smear is obviously that being normal, as in not being Nixie 4 hrs ago #71

Are you saying , if you are not a centrist, you are fringe? Emile 3 hrs ago #73

Denying there is a political middle isn't "progressive." Nixie 1 hr ago #93

You still haven't answered my two questions. Emile 59 min ago #95

Centrist/establishment/status quo/corporate Dems: anti-progressive, corrupt, elite Them. Us: Righteous victims. betsuni 3 hrs ago #72

Curiosity here - not trying to make a point. LAS14 6 hrs ago #56

I think Democrats should make your point - that public Democrats are not leading with those issues muriel_volestrangler 5 hrs ago #67

Gov. Newsom has been left behind in his judgement of what's "Culturally Normal" justaprogressive 6 hrs ago #59

He's buying into RW framing again MustLoveBeagles 5 hrs ago #62

He was doing well, now I'm not impressed. Emile 1 hr ago #89

I'm not either MustLoveBeagles 1 hr ago #90

Alienating part of the party is not going to win elections. Emile 1 hr ago #91

No it isn't MustLoveBeagles 1 hr ago #92

We lead with tolerance bucolic_frolic 3 hrs ago #76

Focusing on the wrong things all the time. BlueTsunami2018 3 hrs ago #77

Would that also be the response when a member of that community asks one of our politicians how they feel about them? BannonsLiver 2 hrs ago #81

If you think he's staking out territory well, what do you think his answer would be muriel_volestrangler 2 hrs ago #84

He answered that in his podcast some people were so pressed over in March. BannonsLiver 2 hrs ago #85

Give me a link muriel_volestrangler 2 hrs ago #86

Newsom, no 'e'. RandySF 3 hrs ago #78

very telling it has not been fixed Skittles 1 hr ago #88