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LAS14

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56. Curiosity here - not trying to make a point.

Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:22 AM

2 hrs ago

For sure members of the left (my church, see post up thread) can be characterized as leading with issues like pronouns and land acknowledgement, but what public Democrats do? I think even AOC and Bernie lead with economic issues these days.

So where does the whole party get this reputation? If it's not based on fact, how can we fight it?

As I said, genuine question, not a position in an argument.

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Gov Newsome triangulating again. [View all] Shipwack 15 hrs ago OP

WTF is "culturally normal?" leftstreet 15 hrs ago #1

I would say this is a great example of what he's talking about. Nixie 12 hrs ago #14

Code for "don't talk about trans or non-binary rights"? LudwigPastorius 12 hrs ago #15

I think he's saying we need better messaging to get our values out..more on point Deuxcents 15 hrs ago #2

Can't say at this point whether that's right or wrong AS FAR AS winning some states we need in 2028. I hate Silent Type 14 hrs ago #3

He's swinging to the center way too soon Blasphemer 14 hrs ago #4

2026 comes first. maxsolomon 1 hr ago #64

Ok. What is culturally normal? Raven123 14 hrs ago #5

You know what it is. maxsolomon 1 hr ago #65

The implication of Newsom's other sentences is "it's anti-immigration" muriel_volestrangler 58 min ago #68

First, please spell his name right. usonian 14 hrs ago #6

What is "wildly" successful? awesomerwb1 2 hrs ago #44

Bernie Sanders Packed an Arena in ... Utah usonian 2 hrs ago #46

That's great awesomerwb1 2 hrs ago #48

You have to ask them. usonian 2 hrs ago #50

It would be interesting data to have awesomerwb1 2 hrs ago #54

I caught some videos of the tour, and people said they were flipping. usonian 1 hr ago #63

"Proof"? awesomerwb1 1 hr ago #66

I see his point Justice Brandeis 14 hrs ago #7

Exactly the point. We don't have to shove people's noses Bluetus 14 hrs ago #8

Most of those things aren't even popular among Democrats gulliver 13 hrs ago #11

. WhiskeyGrinder 4 hrs ago #28

A lot of those things are exaggerated by the right wing JI7 12 hrs ago #13

I don't see data on those who don't vote, they're going after swing voters which are expensive iirc uponit7771 7 hrs ago #16

I can't think of a single Democrat who doesn't use pronouns. WhiskeyGrinder 4 hrs ago #26

I'm a Democrat. I don't have my pronouns in my work signature. maxsolomon 50 min ago #69

Well stated. Sounds like Sunday morning at my church. LAS14 2 hrs ago #53

N E W S O M Skittles 14 hrs ago #9

*WE* have to be less judgmental??? Skittles 14 hrs ago #10

We have to do whatever we need to win JI7 12 hrs ago #12

His surname is spelled Newsom Niagara 6 hrs ago #17

I applaud the OP for posting the Huff Post article in GD muriel_volestrangler 6 hrs ago #18

There's sources posted here that are not reliable at all Niagara 6 hrs ago #20

I don't see that the bit you added before excuses what he said muriel_volestrangler 5 hrs ago #21

Oh, only RW'ers are judgemental on issues? Niagara 4 hrs ago #24

In the grand scheme of things, yes, only Republican politicians are judgmental. muriel_volestrangler 4 hrs ago #25

We are judgmental of Nazis and fascists, nothing wrong with that. They are judgmental of non whites- big problem Blues Heron 4 hrs ago #29

Presidents Obama and Clinton triangulated. President Biden did not. Jose Garcia 6 hrs ago #19

Biden stepped down after being hounded out by Clooney et al Blues Heron 4 hrs ago #32

And a litany of party leaders. BannonsLiver 4 hrs ago #38

Et al Blues Heron 4 hrs ago #39

He was on his way to a lanndslide loss Jose Garcia 4 hrs ago #41

He would have won -he's the only one to defeat Trump. Giving up incumbency was highly stupid. Blues Heron 3 hrs ago #42

Dems need to find 80/20 issues they can hammer on GreatGazoo 4 hrs ago #22

All my lefty family members are tired of the pronoun thing mainer 4 hrs ago #23

Which Democratic candidates were demanding that? muriel_volestrangler 4 hrs ago #27

I'm not referring to particular candidates mainer 3 hrs ago #43

So this is not about Democrats, ie what Newsom was talking about. muriel_volestrangler 2 hrs ago #47

... BannonsLiver 4 hrs ago #35

Culturally normal another way to say the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?? NoMoreRepugs 4 hrs ago #30

Post removed Post removed 4 hrs ago #31

He's not wrong. BannonsLiver 4 hrs ago #33

So is he pushing a purity test for the party? Emile 4 hrs ago #34

The opposite, actually. BannonsLiver 4 hrs ago #36

LOL, I don't think so! Emile 4 hrs ago #37

If you say so. BannonsLiver 4 hrs ago #40

I know exactly what you're referring to. maxsolomon 45 min ago #70

He's saying to drop the purity tests. Nixie 2 hrs ago #45

I guess it depends on which side of the political spectrum Emile 2 hrs ago #49

He's definitely not on the spectrum that alienates voters with Nixie 2 hrs ago #51

As I said, it depends on what side of the political spectrum your on. Emile 2 hrs ago #52

We've all seen enough of this insistence and labeling of Nixie 2 hrs ago #55

See my post #56. nt LAS14 2 hrs ago #57

Purity tests, on which side of the spectrum are you talking about? Emile 2 hrs ago #58

Centrist is really the obvious purity test. A way of smearing our candidates Nixie 1 hr ago #60

Then if centrist is a smear, why do some politicians call themselves centrist? Emile 1 hr ago #61

Curiosity here - not trying to make a point. LAS14 2 hrs ago #56

I think Democrats should make your point - that public Democrats are not leading with those issues muriel_volestrangler 1 hr ago #67

Gov. Newsom has been left behind in his judgement of what's "Culturally Normal" justaprogressive 2 hrs ago #59

He's buying into RW framing again MustLoveBeagles 1 hr ago #62