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Nixie

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60. Centrist is really the obvious purity test. A way of smearing our candidates

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Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:57 AM

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for not being pure enough.

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Gov Newsome triangulating again. [View all] Shipwack 20 hrs ago OP

WTF is "culturally normal?" leftstreet 19 hrs ago #1

I would say this is a great example of what he's talking about. Nixie 17 hrs ago #14

Code for "don't talk about trans or non-binary rights"? LudwigPastorius 17 hrs ago #15

rich White male "christian" LuvLoogie 3 hrs ago #82

I think he's saying we need better messaging to get our values out..more on point Deuxcents 19 hrs ago #2

Can't say at this point whether that's right or wrong AS FAR AS winning some states we need in 2028. I hate Silent Type 19 hrs ago #3

He's swinging to the center way too soon Blasphemer 19 hrs ago #4

2026 comes first. maxsolomon 6 hrs ago #64

Ok. What is culturally normal? Raven123 19 hrs ago #5

You know what it is. maxsolomon 6 hrs ago #65

The implication of Newsom's other sentences is "it's anti-immigration" muriel_volestrangler 5 hrs ago #68

First, please spell his name right. usonian 19 hrs ago #6

What is "wildly" successful? awesomerwb1 7 hrs ago #44

Bernie Sanders Packed an Arena in ... Utah usonian 7 hrs ago #46

That's great awesomerwb1 7 hrs ago #48

You have to ask them. usonian 7 hrs ago #50

It would be interesting data to have awesomerwb1 7 hrs ago #54

I caught some videos of the tour, and people said they were flipping. usonian 6 hrs ago #63

"Proof"? awesomerwb1 5 hrs ago #66

I see his point Justice Brandeis 19 hrs ago #7

Exactly the point. We don't have to shove people's noses Bluetus 19 hrs ago #8

Most of those things aren't even popular among Democrats gulliver 18 hrs ago #11

. WhiskeyGrinder 9 hrs ago #28

It's part of health care. It doesn't have to be called out as a special issue. Fix healthcare for everyone, incl trans beaglelover 4 hrs ago #74

When Republicans object to trans health care, should Democrats defend it, or fold because it's a niche cultural issue? WhiskeyGrinder 3 hrs ago #79

They can just say trans health care is included in our health care plans. No need to dwell on it. beaglelover 3 hrs ago #80

A lot of those things are exaggerated by the right wing JI7 17 hrs ago #13

I don't see data on those who don't vote, they're going after swing voters which are expensive iirc uponit7771 12 hrs ago #16

I can't think of a single Democrat who doesn't use pronouns. WhiskeyGrinder 9 hrs ago #26

I'm a Democrat. I don't have my pronouns in my work signature. maxsolomon 5 hrs ago #69

Well stated. Sounds like Sunday morning at my church. LAS14 7 hrs ago #53

When the right wants to strip trans people of rights, if not outright physically harm them TheProle 1 hr ago #94

N E W S O M Skittles 19 hrs ago #9

*WE* have to be less judgmental??? Skittles 19 hrs ago #10

Being judgemental isn't the problem LuvLoogie 3 hrs ago #83

We have to do whatever we need to win JI7 17 hrs ago #12

His surname is spelled Newsom Niagara 11 hrs ago #17

I applaud the OP for posting the Huff Post article in GD muriel_volestrangler 11 hrs ago #18

There's sources posted here that are not reliable at all Niagara 11 hrs ago #20

I don't see that the bit you added before excuses what he said muriel_volestrangler 10 hrs ago #21

Oh, only RW'ers are judgemental on issues? Niagara 9 hrs ago #24

In the grand scheme of things, yes, only Republican politicians are judgmental. muriel_volestrangler 9 hrs ago #25

We are judgmental of Nazis and fascists, nothing wrong with that. They are judgmental of non whites- big problem Blues Heron 9 hrs ago #29

Presidents Obama and Clinton triangulated. President Biden did not. Jose Garcia 11 hrs ago #19

Biden stepped down after being hounded out by Clooney et al Blues Heron 9 hrs ago #32

And a litany of party leaders. BannonsLiver 9 hrs ago #38

Et al Blues Heron 9 hrs ago #39

He was on his way to a lanndslide loss Jose Garcia 8 hrs ago #41

He would have won -he's the only one to defeat Trump. Giving up incumbency was highly stupid. Blues Heron 8 hrs ago #42

After that idiot took a pot shot at MFer, the die was cast. maxsolomon 4 hrs ago #75

Dems need to find 80/20 issues they can hammer on GreatGazoo 9 hrs ago #22

All my lefty family members are tired of the pronoun thing mainer 9 hrs ago #23

Which Democratic candidates were demanding that? muriel_volestrangler 9 hrs ago #27

I'm not referring to particular candidates mainer 7 hrs ago #43

So this is not about Democrats, ie what Newsom was talking about. muriel_volestrangler 7 hrs ago #47

... BannonsLiver 9 hrs ago #35

Culturally normal another way to say the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?? NoMoreRepugs 9 hrs ago #30

Post removed Post removed 9 hrs ago #31

He's not wrong. BannonsLiver 9 hrs ago #33

So is he pushing a purity test for the party? Emile 9 hrs ago #34

The opposite, actually. BannonsLiver 9 hrs ago #36

LOL, I don't think so! Emile 9 hrs ago #37

If you say so. BannonsLiver 9 hrs ago #40

I know exactly what you're referring to. maxsolomon 5 hrs ago #70

It's verboten to discuss but you are of course correct. BannonsLiver 2 hrs ago #87

He's saying to drop the purity tests. Nixie 7 hrs ago #45

I guess it depends on which side of the political spectrum Emile 7 hrs ago #49

He's definitely not on the spectrum that alienates voters with Nixie 7 hrs ago #51

As I said, it depends on what side of the political spectrum your on. Emile 7 hrs ago #52

We've all seen enough of this insistence and labeling of Nixie 7 hrs ago #55

See my post #56. nt LAS14 7 hrs ago #57

Purity tests, on which side of the spectrum are you talking about? Emile 7 hrs ago #58

Centrist is really the obvious purity test. A way of smearing our candidates Nixie 6 hrs ago #60

Then if centrist is a smear, why do some politicians call themselves centrist? Emile 6 hrs ago #61

The purity test smear is obviously that being normal, as in not being Nixie 4 hrs ago #71

Are you saying , if you are not a centrist, you are fringe? Emile 4 hrs ago #73

Denying there is a political middle isn't "progressive." Nixie 1 hr ago #93

You still haven't answered my two questions. Emile 1 hr ago #95

I doubt you need my answers to any of your distractions to Nixie 6 min ago #97

Centrist/establishment/status quo/corporate Dems: anti-progressive, corrupt, elite Them. Us: Righteous victims. betsuni 4 hrs ago #72

Curiosity here - not trying to make a point. LAS14 7 hrs ago #56

I think Democrats should make your point - that public Democrats are not leading with those issues muriel_volestrangler 5 hrs ago #67

Gov. Newsom has been left behind in his judgement of what's "Culturally Normal" justaprogressive 7 hrs ago #59

He's buying into RW framing again MustLoveBeagles 6 hrs ago #62

He was doing well, now I'm not impressed. Emile 2 hrs ago #89

I'm not either MustLoveBeagles 1 hr ago #90

Alienating part of the party is not going to win elections. Emile 1 hr ago #91

No it isn't MustLoveBeagles 1 hr ago #92

We lead with tolerance bucolic_frolic 3 hrs ago #76

Focusing on the wrong things all the time. BlueTsunami2018 3 hrs ago #77

Would that also be the response when a member of that community asks one of our politicians how they feel about them? BannonsLiver 3 hrs ago #81

If you think he's staking out territory well, what do you think his answer would be muriel_volestrangler 2 hrs ago #84

He answered that in his podcast some people were so pressed over in March. BannonsLiver 2 hrs ago #85

Give me a link muriel_volestrangler 2 hrs ago #86

Newsom, no 'e'. RandySF 3 hrs ago #78

very telling it has not been fixed Skittles 2 hrs ago #88

I, for one, will never vote for him in the primary if he runs. demmiblue 37 min ago #96