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72. Centrist/establishment/status quo/corporate Dems: anti-progressive, corrupt, elite Them. Us: Righteous victims.

Fri Dec 5, 2025, 02:05 PM

11 hrs ago

Redefining and weaponizing words to create Us versus Them division. Nearly every day Jeffries or Schumer are nitpicked to purity hell and back and Democrats lavishly insulted.

Centrist is the new establishment as an insult but it just doesn't sound as impressive, could be the name of a multivitamin supplement.

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Gov Newsome triangulating again. [View all] Shipwack Thursday OP

WTF is "culturally normal?" leftstreet Thursday #1

I would say this is a great example of what he's talking about. Nixie Yesterday #14

Code for "don't talk about trans or non-binary rights"? LudwigPastorius Yesterday #15

rich White male "christian" LuvLoogie 10 hrs ago #82

I think he's saying we need better messaging to get our values out..more on point Deuxcents Thursday #2

Can't say at this point whether that's right or wrong AS FAR AS winning some states we need in 2028. I hate Silent Type Thursday #3

He's swinging to the center way too soon Blasphemer Thursday #4

2026 comes first. maxsolomon 13 hrs ago #64

Ok. What is culturally normal? Raven123 Thursday #5

You know what it is. maxsolomon 13 hrs ago #65

The implication of Newsom's other sentences is "it's anti-immigration" muriel_volestrangler 12 hrs ago #68

First, please spell his name right. usonian Thursday #6

What is "wildly" successful? awesomerwb1 14 hrs ago #44

Bernie Sanders Packed an Arena in ... Utah usonian 14 hrs ago #46

That's great awesomerwb1 14 hrs ago #48

You have to ask them. usonian 14 hrs ago #50

It would be interesting data to have awesomerwb1 14 hrs ago #54

I caught some videos of the tour, and people said they were flipping. usonian 13 hrs ago #63

"Proof"? awesomerwb1 13 hrs ago #66

I see his point Justice Brandeis Thursday #7

Exactly the point. We don't have to shove people's noses Bluetus Thursday #8

Most of those things aren't even popular among Democrats gulliver Yesterday #11

. WhiskeyGrinder 16 hrs ago #28

It's part of health care. It doesn't have to be called out as a special issue. Fix healthcare for everyone, incl trans beaglelover 11 hrs ago #74

When Republicans object to trans health care, should Democrats defend it, or fold because it's a niche cultural issue? WhiskeyGrinder 10 hrs ago #79

They can just say trans health care is included in our health care plans. No need to dwell on it. beaglelover 10 hrs ago #80

A lot of those things are exaggerated by the right wing JI7 Yesterday #13

I don't see data on those who don't vote, they're going after swing voters which are expensive iirc uponit7771 19 hrs ago #16

I can't think of a single Democrat who doesn't use pronouns. WhiskeyGrinder 16 hrs ago #26

I'm a Democrat. I don't have my pronouns in my work signature. maxsolomon 12 hrs ago #69

Well stated. Sounds like Sunday morning at my church. LAS14 14 hrs ago #53

When the right wants to strip trans people of rights, if not outright physically harm them TheProle 8 hrs ago #94

N E W S O M Skittles Thursday #9

*WE* have to be less judgmental??? Skittles Thursday #10

Being judgemental isn't the problem LuvLoogie 10 hrs ago #83

We have to do whatever we need to win JI7 Yesterday #12

His surname is spelled Newsom Niagara 18 hrs ago #17

I applaud the OP for posting the Huff Post article in GD muriel_volestrangler 18 hrs ago #18

There's sources posted here that are not reliable at all Niagara 18 hrs ago #20

I don't see that the bit you added before excuses what he said muriel_volestrangler 17 hrs ago #21

Oh, only RW'ers are judgemental on issues? Niagara 16 hrs ago #24

In the grand scheme of things, yes, only Republican politicians are judgmental. muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #25

We are judgmental of Nazis and fascists, nothing wrong with that. They are judgmental of non whites- big problem Blues Heron 16 hrs ago #29

Presidents Obama and Clinton triangulated. President Biden did not. Jose Garcia 18 hrs ago #19

Biden stepped down after being hounded out by Clooney et al Blues Heron 16 hrs ago #32

And a litany of party leaders. BannonsLiver 16 hrs ago #38

Et al Blues Heron 16 hrs ago #39

He was on his way to a lanndslide loss Jose Garcia 16 hrs ago #41

He would have won -he's the only one to defeat Trump. Giving up incumbency was highly stupid. Blues Heron 15 hrs ago #42

After that idiot took a pot shot at MFer, the die was cast. maxsolomon 11 hrs ago #75

Dems need to find 80/20 issues they can hammer on GreatGazoo 16 hrs ago #22

All my lefty family members are tired of the pronoun thing mainer 16 hrs ago #23

Which Democratic candidates were demanding that? muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #27

I'm not referring to particular candidates mainer 15 hrs ago #43

So this is not about Democrats, ie what Newsom was talking about. muriel_volestrangler 14 hrs ago #47

... BannonsLiver 16 hrs ago #35

Culturally normal another way to say the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?? NoMoreRepugs 16 hrs ago #30

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He's not wrong. BannonsLiver 16 hrs ago #33

So is he pushing a purity test for the party? Emile 16 hrs ago #34

The opposite, actually. BannonsLiver 16 hrs ago #36

LOL, I don't think so! Emile 16 hrs ago #37

If you say so. BannonsLiver 16 hrs ago #40

I know exactly what you're referring to. maxsolomon 12 hrs ago #70

It's verboten to discuss but you are of course correct. BannonsLiver 9 hrs ago #87

He's saying to drop the purity tests. Nixie 14 hrs ago #45

I guess it depends on which side of the political spectrum Emile 14 hrs ago #49

He's definitely not on the spectrum that alienates voters with Nixie 14 hrs ago #51

As I said, it depends on what side of the political spectrum your on. Emile 14 hrs ago #52

We've all seen enough of this insistence and labeling of Nixie 14 hrs ago #55

See my post #56. nt LAS14 14 hrs ago #57

Purity tests, on which side of the spectrum are you talking about? Emile 14 hrs ago #58

Centrist is really the obvious purity test. A way of smearing our candidates Nixie 13 hrs ago #60

Then if centrist is a smear, why do some politicians call themselves centrist? Emile 13 hrs ago #61

The purity test smear is obviously that being normal, as in not being Nixie 11 hrs ago #71

Are you saying , if you are not a centrist, you are fringe? Emile 11 hrs ago #73

Denying there is a political middle isn't "progressive." Nixie 8 hrs ago #93

You still haven't answered my two questions. Emile 8 hrs ago #95

I doubt you need my answers to any of your distractions to Nixie 7 hrs ago #97

You just described a purity test! Thank you! Emile 6 hrs ago #98

Your contrived set up was the purity test. Just run a candidate because Nixie 6 hrs ago #99

You do know there are 6 wings to the democratic party? Emile 6 hrs ago #100

Oh Nixie 6 hrs ago #101

Just being literal. Emile 6 hrs ago #102

Centrist/establishment/status quo/corporate Dems: anti-progressive, corrupt, elite Them. Us: Righteous victims. betsuni 11 hrs ago #72

Curiosity here - not trying to make a point. LAS14 14 hrs ago #56

I think Democrats should make your point - that public Democrats are not leading with those issues muriel_volestrangler 13 hrs ago #67

Gov. Newsom has been left behind in his judgement of what's "Culturally Normal" justaprogressive 14 hrs ago #59

He's buying into RW framing again MustLoveBeagles 13 hrs ago #62

He was doing well, now I'm not impressed. Emile 9 hrs ago #89

I'm not either MustLoveBeagles 9 hrs ago #90

Alienating part of the party is not going to win elections. Emile 8 hrs ago #91

No it isn't MustLoveBeagles 8 hrs ago #92

We lead with tolerance bucolic_frolic 11 hrs ago #76

Focusing on the wrong things all the time. BlueTsunami2018 10 hrs ago #77

Would that also be the response when a member of that community asks one of our politicians how they feel about them? BannonsLiver 10 hrs ago #81

If you think he's staking out territory well, what do you think his answer would be muriel_volestrangler 9 hrs ago #84

He answered that in his podcast some were pressed about in March. BannonsLiver 9 hrs ago #85

Give me a link muriel_volestrangler 9 hrs ago #86

Newsom, no 'e'. RandySF 10 hrs ago #78

very telling it has not been fixed Skittles 9 hrs ago #88

I, for one, will never vote for him in the primary if he runs. demmiblue 7 hrs ago #96

Let's see... MorbidButterflyTat 6 hrs ago #103

But they work really hard on it, like washing machines. betsuni 5 hrs ago #105

+1, yes, so desperate to continue the coveted victimization Nixie 3 hrs ago #106

What are the rules to being more culturally normal? Emile 5 hrs ago #104

To me The Bopper 2 hrs ago #107