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WhiskeyGrinder

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1. It's from an excellent op-ed by Phil Klay.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 10:00 AM
Dec 6
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/05/opinion/trump-boat-strikes.html

https://archive.ph/78Dib

When Trump administration officials post snuff films of alleged drug boats blowing up, of a weeping migrant handcuffed by immigration officers or of themselves in front of inmates at a brutal El Salvadoran prison, I often think of a story St. Augustine told in his “Confessions.”

In the fourth century A.D., a young man named Alypius arrived in Rome to study law. He was a decent sort. He knew the people at the center of the empire delighted in cruel gladiatorial games, and he promised himself he would not go. Eventually, though, his fellow students dragged him to a match. At first, the crowd appalled Alypius. “The entire place seethed with the most monstrous delight in the cruelty,” Augustine wrote, and Alypius kept his eyes shut, refusing to look at the evil around him.

But then a man fell in combat, a great roar came from the crowd and curiosity forced open Alypius’s eyes. He was “struck in the soul by a wound graver than the gladiator in his body.” He saw the blood, and he drank in savagery. Riveted, “he imbibed madness.” Soon, Augustine said, he became “a fit companion for those who had brought him.”

There are many reasons to object to the policies that the Trump administration’s videos and memes showcase. Yet the images themselves also inflict wounds, of the kind that Alypius suffered when he raised his eyelids. The president inhabits a position of moral leadership. When the president and his officials sell their policies, they’re selling a version of what it means to be an American — what should evoke our love and our hate, our disgust and our delight. If all governments rest on opinion, as James Madison thought, then it is this moral shaping of the electorate that gives the president his freedom of action, and that we will still have to reckon with once he is gone.
It's from an excellent op-ed by Phil Klay. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 6 #1
Thank you! I looked, but couldn't find it again. niyad Dec 6 #3
Trumpism is more than just Trump. Beartracks Dec 6 #16
Thanks for sharing. yellow dahlia Dec 6 #21
That shit has been going on for ages. Turbineguy Dec 6 #2
As has been frequently said on DU dlk Dec 6 #4
Yes, I agree. They showed all the snuff films. Walleye Dec 6 #10
This is why I don't understand why people like violent movies. LisaM Dec 6 #5
Especially if you dehumanize them by labeling them "terrorists." surfered Dec 6 #6
Narco-terrorists "criminal illegal aliens." surprised they haven't thought up another hateful adjective to put in there Walleye Dec 6 #11
Authoritarians have to change public perspectives on the use of violence, tell them it's for the good of the nation. Timeflyer Dec 6 #7
Maybe this is why IT is always referring to people he doesn't like as "animals". The same as LoisB Dec 6 #8
There are a lot of us who will never be desensitized Six117 Dec 6 #9
The discussion frame has gone from illegal war to war crime to double tap. hay rick Dec 6 #12
I remember some of the debates here on DU about violent video games malaise Dec 6 #13
High School Shooters Kid Berwyn Dec 6 #15
Worked on 9-11 Kid Berwyn Dec 6 #14
I watched that whole progression with increasing horror and revulsion, niyad Dec 6 #17
At the time, I said to myself "Pearl Harbor reference in 1...2...3..." malthaussen Dec 6 #19
In "Woman of the Year," Kate Hepburn's character becomes a baseball fanatic... malthaussen Dec 6 #18
Napoleon .. aggiesal Dec 6 #20
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