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usonian

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24. I believe that Kamala, more than the progressives, was a moderating influence on Biden
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 02:30 AM
Dec 8

and obviously would have done infinitely more than Jabba the Orange Hutt to help victims of the hostilities.

That was not conveyed. I have posted for Dems to lead with their strength, and that happens to be economic issues , the ones that progressives are hammering. They are not ignoring social issues. They come up after the main theme in rallies.

Focus is crucial to stave off the damn "whatabouts".

I have maintained that Israeli's are betrayed by Bibi and that Gazans are betrayed by Hamas. Good luck trying to make anything better "cuz you're supposed to take one side over the other" and not humanity.

IMO Bibi and his cadre need to spend life in prison and same for Hamas. And that's just to stop the killing. Fat chance.

But the past is to learn from and people don't.

I argued that Harris would have been infinitely better for Gazans. But in CA it didn't really matter. It mattered a lot elsewhere. And I'll agree that the message was weak. I can only control myself.

Would a stronger message have made the difference? Maybe so, but it had really loud, energetic and powerful distractors.

Times have changed. Let's focus and make winning choices. Not to bury other important issues, but to focus on the big winners.

The others will then succeed.

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Recommended. H2O Man Dec 7 #1
They were in the wrong Boo1 Dec 7 #6
Way wrong. H2O Man Dec 8 #16
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Sure you are. H2O Man Dec 8 #32
Thank you! We were right on Vietnam, my Dad served in WW2 and when there was a draft way back when ... cliffside Dec 7 #7
After coming here H2O Man Dec 8 #17
Thanks ....more tomorrow :) nt cliffside Dec 8 #25
Well, the blame Democrats wing certainly "won". nt LexVegas Dec 7 #2
It is not about blaming Dems. nt cliffside Dec 7 #8
One of the best things Biden did as president was to never hire Ben Rhodes. tritsofme Dec 7 #3
There was a massive and successful "split the Democrats" campaign. usonian Dec 7 #4
Not needing a bot to know what what is right or wrong, bombing refugee camps, supplying weapons is not right cliffside Dec 7 #9
I believe that Kamala, more than the progressives, was a moderating influence on Biden usonian Dec 8 #24
DURec leftstreet Dec 7 #5
Thank you :) nt cliffside Dec 7 #10
Excellent article. Thank you for gifting the whole thing. mountain grammy Dec 7 #11
You're welcome and it my pleasure, I'm thinking we need another DU forum to share articles ... cliffside Dec 7 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Dec 7 #12
Maybe we should reflect on what others have suffered because of our policies and not just what this asshole has cliffside Dec 8 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Dec 8 #18
Not sure you understand what our policy was, and ALL CAPS does not elevate your position, we helped to kill ... cliffside Dec 8 #22
There are those H2O Man Dec 8 #19
We need to have these discussions amongst ourselves, if we cannot then how can we possibly have a discussion with ... cliffside Dec 8 #23
Biden did a lot right. This was his biggest failure. paulkienitz Dec 8 #14
This was definitely his biggest failure jfz9580m Dec 8 #21
"they try syncretic mixes to figure out how to swindle the populace and destroy the planet best" -- Yup. paulkienitz Dec 8 #29
An excellent article Uncle Joe Dec 8 #20
My pleasure, think we need a sharing forum to pool resources for paid sites ... cliffside Dec 8 #26
When Putin got indicted by ICC, Biden practically did a jig. Xolodno Dec 8 #27
Very thoughtful piece. Thanks for posting Raven123 Dec 8 #28
The same people that got dragged around by the nose by the social media propaganda surrounding this issue... W_HAMILTON Dec 8 #30
Those protests lost funding right after the election in 2024 IbogaProject Dec 9 #33
Here is my post from 10/08/23 IbogaProject Dec 9 #34
Thanks for that article! nt cliffside Dec 9 #35
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