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In reply to the discussion: Serious questions for those who are convinced that Obama, Clinton, and Gore are not liberals. [View all]aandegoons
(473 posts)1. False dichotomy: even if no one can name any elected officials who are truly liberal it does not mean that any you listed are liberal.
2. Who cares? again a False dichotomy
3. No but that in itself does not prove Obama and the rest are Liberals. I would guess they would not even class themselves as Liberals.
4. Conservatism is wrong end of story.
Comparing liberal ideology with conservative ideology just to de-legitimize it is conservative misdirection at it's core. The failure of Tea Party is due to it's often crazy and needed misconception of reality. That and it's core lack of moral direction. The early success is fully a creation of the money and media push of it's puppet masters.
We know for a fact that Liberalism works and works well. It is the most successful ideology the world has, and continues it's success even in the face of the extreme money and media we are all bombarded by. All the most liberal countries in the world are the most peaceful and rewarding places to live. They have health care, vacation, low crime, and very few wars, among other benefits we in this country should strive for. Yes they are not perfect but damn comparing a successful and rewarding life to a made up and crazy group who have no clue what they stand for is wrong.
And that just so you can label what would easily have passed for republicans years ago as liberals is misdirected anger. If the folks you have listed stand for those things which you approve of then stand up be strong and say I believe in them. If you need to label them as something they are not maybe you should push them to be more ..... um should I say it?
Liberal.