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highplainsdem

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61. Thanks, but I'm just trying to relay some of what I've heard from artists and writers and others
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 11:42 AM
18 hrs ago

whose work has been stolen by AI companies who want the value of that work to go to them.

Just saw another blatant example this morning, in a long thread on Reddit pointing out that the Australian psychedelic rock band King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, who removed all their music from Spotify last summer, now has what is apparently an AI clone on Spotify:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/1phag1t/spotify_now_features_ai_band_clones/

I've met a lot of creatives on X who have a lot to say about the theft of their work...and I've seen all too many AI users there showing really vicious envy of real creatives, calling them elitist gatekeepers. I've never forgotten one of those AI using wannabes taunting a British painter who'd just finished a lovely seascape after a few days by uploading it to some AI model to churn out near copies of it in a few minutes.

And when OpenAI CEO Sam Altman launched ChatGPT's new image generator last spring, he also encouraged a craze for copying the style of a Japanese artist famously opposed to AI art who had called it "an insult to life itself" -

https://fortune.com/2025/03/28/sam-altman-chatgpt-gpus-melting-ai-images/

A craze the Trump regime approved of - and OpenAI has been very supportive of Trump, who in turn doesn't want AI companies regulated.

https://time.com/7272593/studio-ghibli-memes-trump-white-house/

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/16/magazine/studio-ghibli-ai-images-deportation.html

From that NYT piece:

Haters like me felt obligated to point out that this Ghiblification seemed likely to rely on ChatGPT’s having been fed Ghibli movies as training, with no permission sought or compensation offered. (All OpenAI has said on the subject is that the new model was trained on “images reflecting a vast variety of image styles.”) These movies are painstakingly constructed stories about the irreducibility of the human spirit and the fragile beauty of nature. The Ghiblified images are something else, something that wouldn’t be out of place in a Miyazaki movie: a swarm of cheap knockoffs feeding parasitically off the essence of the originals, cranked out by a technology so plunderously energy-intensive that coal plants slated for closure have been kept open just to keep it running. But pointing this out risked sounding like a killjoy: They were just memes, right?

By March 27, the meme had reached the White House, or at least its official X account, where a news release about the planned deportation of a Dominican woman — a convicted fentanyl dealer — was paired with a Ghiblified image of this woman weeping in shackles.

-snip-

Not long ago, the United States government would, by default, seek to distance itself from images like this; often, as with images of post-9/11 torture, the government actively suppressed or destroyed them. The Trump administration releases them on purpose, implicitly arguing that their content is a source of pride and amusement. (If the Abu Ghraib photos leaked today, it’s possible to imagine that the White House would repost them approvingly.) It drops any sugarcoating or performance of restraint and gives us crass gloating, assigning Trump the role of the merciless, enthusiastic deporter in chief — no matter what the actual numbers look like. On April 6, the White House posted another Ghiblified meme, this one pairing a cartoon JD Vance with a quotation from him about refusing to let the “far left” influence deportation policy.

This administration isn’t the only one trying to play the latest meme game. Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India, a leading figure of the global far right (and a big A.I. fan), posted a Ghiblified self-portrait; Sam Altman reposted it. The Israeli Army, which has used A.I. to plan its strikes on Gaza, posted Ghiblified images of its personnel; the Israeli Embassy in India posted Ghiblified images of Modi and Benjamin Netanyahu together. Just as A.I.-powered Ghiblification is an easy way to give any image you want a sought-after vibe, political memes are a way to cultivate a defiantly jubilant online mood with no fixed relationship to reality.


This is deliberate exploitation of an artist by both an AI company CEO using an artist's style to say F U to him and anyone else who opposes the theft of intellectual property, and by rightwing authoritarian politicians using it to show their "defiantly jubilant" mood - which is really gleeful bullying. Whether it's from the Trump regime or Sam Altman or some unknown AI user on X, trying to hurt a real artist he could never equal.

I've met artists who are nearly suicidal from what AI has done to their livelihoods and those of other artists they know.

And I've met a lot of teachers, too, who are in despair over the AI companies taking a wrecking ball to education, encouraging students to cheat with AI, telling them it isn't really cheating but "just another tool." They know those kids aren't learning. Some of those teachers are planning to quit teaching. I've also met teachers who are thinking they can carve out some niche for themselves trying to justify using AI in education - these jobs are sometimes directly funded by AI companies in effect using the teachers as shills - but even these paid shills are often conflicted over AI use so obviously undermining education. I remember one of them posting a horrified message about an AI tool blatantly advertised as something to use for cheating. I saw the CEO of one AI company post on X to tell students to use AI to cheat their way through school to get that degree, and then AI would be their "superpower" after they graduated.

In the last three years I've read thousands of articles about AI and at least tens of thousands of social media posts about it. It was clear from the immediate impacts of ChatGPT three years ago that it would cause harm, but I didn't realize then just how much harm it would cause, or how fast. I wasn't expecting the AI bros to line up behind Trump, either.

But they're apparently hoping to make common cause with his lawlessness, and they see in him a fellow thief. They don't want AI regulated. And they do want intellectual property laws weakened or done away with completely, so they'll never be punished for all the IP they stole. They're no different in that sense from any other criminals cozying up to Trump.

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Critical work was and is done slowly and carefully. usonian Sunday #1
Now it is on my mind MuseRider Sunday #2
I'm 56 and I've only seen a slide rule once or twice. Haggard Celine Sunday #3
False premise. NASA and the other entities involved used computers. They did not only use slide rules. Celerity Sunday #4
Didn't John Glenn ask the women mathmaticians of "Hiden Figures" to do manual calculations Deminpenn Sunday #5
Never saw that movie, but you said 'check the computer calculations' so computers were obviously used to a degree. Celerity Sunday #7
The computers... IcyPeas Sunday #15
See comment 15: the "computers" were women. TommyT139 Yesterday #57
No, the women checked the computers' outputs. Also see comments in this thread confirming that computers were used Celerity Yesterday #58
Jmo, but a lot of "AI" seems just to be a rebrand of things that Deminpenn Sunday #6
Its way more than that JCMach1 Sunday #10
A lot is what is called AI isn't. Ms. Toad Sunday #12
Then anyone could "write" such a thesis because it would require minimal knowledge and the AI highplainsdem Sunday #16
I've seen a couple reports that AI has already revealed some dangers... buzzycrumbhunger Sunday #53
. I've read a little about this, and here is what I think is going on.... reACTIONary Sunday #55
AI technology is the new reality anciano Sunday #8
You can't enhance creativity with AI, any more than you enhance creativity asking someone else to highplainsdem Sunday #9
I don't think this is fair. mr715 Sunday #14
Curious about what you mean when you say it inspires you. Do you mean you ask it for ideas? highplainsdem Sunday #18
It did a psychic reading mr715 Sunday #35
Cool 😎 .... anciano Sunday #40
See reply 37. highplainsdem Sunday #50
Okay, I'll give you an A+ for creativity just for writing a poem for a science communication workshop. highplainsdem Sunday #49
Yours is one of the few nuanced takes I've read about one of the major faults with AI... appmanga Sunday #54
Thanks, but I'm just trying to relay some of what I've heard from artists and writers and others highplainsdem 18 hrs ago #61
I mean... the poem was well received mr715 15 hrs ago #62
GenAI is very good at mimicry. highplainsdem 14 hrs ago #64
Some don't need it for creativity tinrobot Sunday #48
We didn't do it with a slide rule DavidDvorkin Sunday #11
I never used a slide rule. mr715 Sunday #13
It isn't at all cool that AI is being widely used for cheating and students are learning less as a highplainsdem Sunday #19
Students also learn more... WarGamer Sunday #22
GenAI is never hallucination-free. I don't know where you got the idea that it is. highplainsdem Sunday #23
It's because history is set. WarGamer Sunday #25
See reply 26. highplainsdem Sunday #27
If you ask Grok mr715 Sunday #41
It wasn't that long ago that Grok was identifying him as the main source of misinformation on X, highplainsdem Sunday #46
Now it does funny stuff mr715 Sunday #47
Yes. Smarter than Einstein, and more fit than LeBron James: highplainsdem Sunday #51
Re hallucinations - see this article: highplainsdem Sunday #26
Yup I'm a Gemini Pro 3.0 power user... since day 1 and version 1. WarGamer Sunday #29
You just contradicted what you said minutes ago about it being hallucination-free. highplainsdem Sunday #31
I specifically said history topics along with other disciplines that don't change and are "set" WarGamer Sunday #33
The topic doesn't matter. All genAI models can hallucinate on any topic. highplainsdem Sunday #34
*can yes... WarGamer Sunday #39
Just one study: highplainsdem Sunday #45
And see these threads about AI and hallucinations: highplainsdem Sunday #28
The undergrads I teach mr715 Sunday #36
We need to adapt. mr715 Sunday #42
I'll be the first to say it: What's a slide rule? Polybius Sunday #17
Wikipedia is very useful: highplainsdem Sunday #20
Hey, never cite wikipedia! mr715 Sunday #43
50 years ago if I told you I could hold a piece of glass and access global knowledge... WarGamer Sunday #21
You don't know if it was "dead accurate" unless you took the time to check that those were the highplainsdem Sunday #24
I did... I back checked it. WarGamer Sunday #32
Cool 😎.... anciano Sunday #30
Not exactly. highplainsdem Sunday #37
I find this discussion fascinating. It seems that the algorithm has figured out people are inherently lazy learners. cayugafalls Sunday #38
It is a fancy autocorrect mr715 Sunday #44
Like it or not, if you have a job interview these days you better have an AI story/strategy underpants Sunday #52
In some professions use of AI is a badge of dishonor. highplainsdem Yesterday #56
It's pretty mediocre jfz9580m Yesterday #59
We weren't allowed to use a slide rule in school. That was cheating. Emile 23 hrs ago #60
Did you memorize logs? nt mr715 14 hrs ago #65
We had to walk 5 miles barefoot in snow to school too. Emile 14 hrs ago #67
Uphill both ways. mr715 14 hrs ago #68
LOL, that's right 👍. Emile 11 hrs ago #69
I wonder the same about calculators Torchlight 14 hrs ago #63
And grad students. nt mr715 14 hrs ago #66
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