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highplainsdem

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64. GenAI is very good at mimicry.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 03:01 PM
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And we should never underestimate how much went into the training data.

I don't blame people for being impressed by genAI, at least initially.

But IMO it doesn't offer enough of real value to offset all the harm it does, starting with the theft of the world's intellectual property.

It's the most dangerous non-weapon tech ever developed (and it's been added to weapons, though it hallucinates when used in weapons).

The tech most likely to remove sapiens from Homo sapiens.

The tech most likely to entrench dictatorships and oligarchies.

It's being peddled as a harmless and amusing assistant, and offered for free or a very low price when both Perplexity and OpenAI have floated the idea of charging $1,000 a month, once people have become so chatbot-dependent they'll pay that (Sam Altman has admitted OpenAI is losing money even with the $200/mo subscription tier).

The plan is to serve users ads along with the chatbots, and good luck trying to figure out if that friendly chatbot is recommending a product as the paid advertisement.

And all the data the chatbots collect will be for sale, as well as probably available for free to the governments of authoritarian countries. Perfect for both surveillance and manipulation, while chatbot users are kept entertained and flattered.

This is not a high-tech utopia, and users are not in control of genAI.

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Critical work was and is done slowly and carefully. usonian Sunday #1
Now it is on my mind MuseRider Sunday #2
I'm 56 and I've only seen a slide rule once or twice. Haggard Celine Sunday #3
False premise. NASA and the other entities involved used computers. They did not only use slide rules. Celerity Sunday #4
Didn't John Glenn ask the women mathmaticians of "Hiden Figures" to do manual calculations Deminpenn Sunday #5
Never saw that movie, but you said 'check the computer calculations' so computers were obviously used to a degree. Celerity Sunday #7
The computers... IcyPeas Sunday #15
See comment 15: the "computers" were women. TommyT139 Monday #57
No, the women checked the computers' outputs. Also see comments in this thread confirming that computers were used Celerity Monday #58
Jmo, but a lot of "AI" seems just to be a rebrand of things that Deminpenn Sunday #6
Its way more than that JCMach1 Sunday #10
A lot is what is called AI isn't. Ms. Toad Sunday #12
Then anyone could "write" such a thesis because it would require minimal knowledge and the AI highplainsdem Sunday #16
I've seen a couple reports that AI has already revealed some dangers... buzzycrumbhunger Sunday #53
. I've read a little about this, and here is what I think is going on.... reACTIONary Sunday #55
AI technology is the new reality anciano Sunday #8
You can't enhance creativity with AI, any more than you enhance creativity asking someone else to highplainsdem Sunday #9
I don't think this is fair. mr715 Sunday #14
Curious about what you mean when you say it inspires you. Do you mean you ask it for ideas? highplainsdem Sunday #18
It did a psychic reading mr715 Sunday #35
Cool 😎 .... anciano Sunday #40
See reply 37. highplainsdem Sunday #50
Okay, I'll give you an A+ for creativity just for writing a poem for a science communication workshop. highplainsdem Sunday #49
Yours is one of the few nuanced takes I've read about one of the major faults with AI... appmanga Sunday #54
Thanks, but I'm just trying to relay some of what I've heard from artists and writers and others highplainsdem Monday #61
I mean... the poem was well received mr715 Monday #62
GenAI is very good at mimicry. highplainsdem Monday #64
Some don't need it for creativity tinrobot Sunday #48
We didn't do it with a slide rule DavidDvorkin Sunday #11
I never used a slide rule. mr715 Sunday #13
It isn't at all cool that AI is being widely used for cheating and students are learning less as a highplainsdem Sunday #19
Students also learn more... WarGamer Sunday #22
GenAI is never hallucination-free. I don't know where you got the idea that it is. highplainsdem Sunday #23
It's because history is set. WarGamer Sunday #25
See reply 26. highplainsdem Sunday #27
If you ask Grok mr715 Sunday #41
It wasn't that long ago that Grok was identifying him as the main source of misinformation on X, highplainsdem Sunday #46
Now it does funny stuff mr715 Sunday #47
Yes. Smarter than Einstein, and more fit than LeBron James: highplainsdem Sunday #51
Re hallucinations - see this article: highplainsdem Sunday #26
Yup I'm a Gemini Pro 3.0 power user... since day 1 and version 1. WarGamer Sunday #29
You just contradicted what you said minutes ago about it being hallucination-free. highplainsdem Sunday #31
I specifically said history topics along with other disciplines that don't change and are "set" WarGamer Sunday #33
The topic doesn't matter. All genAI models can hallucinate on any topic. highplainsdem Sunday #34
*can yes... WarGamer Sunday #39
Just one study: highplainsdem Sunday #45
And see these threads about AI and hallucinations: highplainsdem Sunday #28
The undergrads I teach mr715 Sunday #36
We need to adapt. mr715 Sunday #42
I'll be the first to say it: What's a slide rule? Polybius Sunday #17
Wikipedia is very useful: highplainsdem Sunday #20
Hey, never cite wikipedia! mr715 Sunday #43
50 years ago if I told you I could hold a piece of glass and access global knowledge... WarGamer Sunday #21
You don't know if it was "dead accurate" unless you took the time to check that those were the highplainsdem Sunday #24
I did... I back checked it. WarGamer Sunday #32
Cool 😎.... anciano Sunday #30
Not exactly. highplainsdem Sunday #37
I find this discussion fascinating. It seems that the algorithm has figured out people are inherently lazy learners. cayugafalls Sunday #38
It is a fancy autocorrect mr715 Sunday #44
Like it or not, if you have a job interview these days you better have an AI story/strategy underpants Sunday #52
In some professions use of AI is a badge of dishonor. highplainsdem Monday #56
It's pretty mediocre jfz9580m Monday #59
We weren't allowed to use a slide rule in school. That was cheating. Emile Monday #60
Did you memorize logs? nt mr715 Monday #65
We had to walk 5 miles barefoot in snow to school too. Emile Monday #67
Uphill both ways. mr715 Monday #68
LOL, that's right 👍. Emile Monday #69
I wonder the same about calculators Torchlight Monday #63
And grad students. nt mr715 Monday #66
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