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EdmondDantes_

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6. If the numbers in the article I found are correct
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 05:04 PM
Dec 8

Human drivers do the same far more frequently.

https://www.schoolbusfleet.com/10244361/annual-nasdpts-survey-highlights-danger-of-passing-school-buses

There were 114,239 drivers who reported 67,258 vehicles illegally passed their stopped school buses on a single day,” NASDPTS Executive Director Ronna Weber announced at the convention.

When adjusted to represent 100% of school bus drivers nationwide, and based on data NASDPTS has tracked since 2022, the association estimates there would have been just over 218,000 illegal passings in a single day.

When you project that out of 180 days to represent the school year, that’s 39.3 million violations per year.

And that was down from the previous year. Not that Waymo shouldn't do better, but taking all the data in, human drivers are significantly worse than the non-Tesla autonomous cars. It's easy to point at relatively infrequent errors (compared to human drivers). In my parents' town a bus driver ran over a kid, should I assume that makes all bus drivers unsafe, or do I need more data points?

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