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66. Creating more energy infrastructure doesn't guarantee we abide by some arbitrary bounds

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:41 PM

Dec 2012

We still do not know if mankind, as a whole, will play the game we are crafting rather than utilize all available energy (as has been our pattern). This is a very optimistic view technophiles revel in, but we also know that creating surplus energy in the past has led to accelerated energy consumption.

In theory, yes, paying for green infrastructure could be advantageous if its immediate carbon debt is not prohibited (by its damage to the environment), but if this alternate energy simply makes dirty sources cheaper for 3rd world countries, then there will be no substantial progress.

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Matt Damon: �Game is rigged� [View all] damnedifIknow Dec 2012 OP

Love Matt Damon. n/t Control-Z Dec 2012 #1

Can't say he's wrong. It's the FoxCNNMSNBC syndrome RomneyLies Dec 2012 #2

Glad he has figured it out dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #3

I think he figured it out a long time ago Confusious Dec 2012 #54

I agree, Damon and Clooney, to name two of about a half dozen actors, bluestate10 Dec 2012 #69

Also interesting because business doesn't look long term either Gman Dec 2012 #4

could be because it's all about looting in the usa & moving it offshore. business is being built up, HiPointDem Dec 2012 #5

Quarter? ProfessorGAC Dec 2012 #9

Well, yes. Even daily and weekly goals and quotas all tied to the quarterly and annual goals Gman Dec 2012 #14

Well we've been "running government like a business" for about 30 years now. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #11

+1 nt abelenkpe Dec 2012 #18

That is only true at the lower levels of "business". bvar22 Dec 2012 #67

Not totally true. bluestate10 Dec 2012 #70

Good Points Gman Dec 2012 #90

It all comes down to gerrymandering LynneSin Dec 2012 #6

who was he talking about? molonlabe91 Dec 2012 #17

so what do you consider yourself to be? NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #20

Just another PPR'd troll. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #36

"Molon Labe" is a TeaSlogan. HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #57

It basically means "try to take my gun away from me". How creepy! nt Walk away Dec 2012 #87

I know! I was playing a "MIRT smoke out" role! NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #60

Are you fricking kidding me? You suck at geography, probably why you vote republican LynneSin Dec 2012 #74

actually, it was a bipartisan group that did the districting . . . LeftyLucy22 Dec 2012 #80

I think there should be rules on trolls.... Walk away Dec 2012 #86

That is why sitting out elections or wasting votes like in 2000 and 2010 is so damaging for bluestate10 Dec 2012 #71

Being a GOP pol is required for becoming a 7 figure lobbyist. nt ErikJ Dec 2012 #7

Maybe Matt has finally figured out the rury Dec 2012 #8

How so? n/t cui bono Dec 2012 #25

Can you elaborate please? n/t bitchkitty Dec 2012 #51

I think Damon was aware from day one. truedelphi Dec 2012 #79

I'm happy, thanks to Social Security coldbeer Dec 2012 #10

he's right. the house is a shit infested hell-hole. spanone Dec 2012 #12

k&r! nt wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #13

Spot-on. AzDar Dec 2012 #15

Please run for office Matt. And if not - just marry me! jillan Dec 2012 #16

He was a made a good one in the Adjustment Bureau soleft Dec 2012 #61

get yer mitts off Matt, jillan! Skittles Dec 2012 #85

Of course Damon is usually on the money Manoverde84 Dec 2012 #19

This reinforces the reality 2naSalit Dec 2012 #21

George Carlin warned us several years ago: Initech Dec 2012 #22

K&R defacto7 Dec 2012 #23

That's how I feel about rich people who don't pay their fair share in taxes. blueclown Dec 2012 #24

Why do you wonder that and what does it have to do with what he said? n/t cui bono Dec 2012 #26

I wonder that because he says the "game is rigged". blueclown Dec 2012 #27

By telling someone like that to donate to the treasury you are actually calling for liberals cui bono Dec 2012 #34

Damon on taxation: Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #38

Not in the least bit surprised tavalon Dec 2012 #46

Do you have any info on whether he's taken a position JackRiddler Dec 2012 #28

I would like to see Mr. Damon create a movie about the historically low blueclown Dec 2012 #29

Yes! Lets tax, tax, tax rich people until atmospheric carbon magically drops NoOneMan Dec 2012 #30

Taxing the rich to pay for social services is not an important issue? blueclown Dec 2012 #31

Ah, if the machine is to continue rolling on smoothly, sure NoOneMan Dec 2012 #32

It's not such a bad strategy... JackRiddler Dec 2012 #39

"partly a function of over-consumption by those who have too much" NoOneMan Dec 2012 #42

Yes, but you'll notice I anticipated the point. JackRiddler Dec 2012 #52

Creating more energy infrastructure doesn't guarantee we abide by some arbitrary bounds NoOneMan Dec 2012 #66

Sure, it requires understanding and vision. JackRiddler Dec 2012 #77

There are alternatives and there is reality NoOneMan Dec 2012 #78

Matt Damon voiced "Inside Job" JackRiddler Dec 2012 #33

+++ Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #37

I have nothing but admiration and respect for Matt Damon tavalon Dec 2012 #47

Same here, and as a teacher I was thrilled with his public support of education and teachers. Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #48

I'm on board with that tavalon Dec 2012 #50

He wrote a movie about fracking. He can't do everything. cui bono Dec 2012 #35

his mother is a public school teacher JI7 Dec 2012 #40

He's a true blue liberal, so I expect he pays his fair share and tavalon Dec 2012 #45

You may be able 4Q2u2 Dec 2012 #63

Welcome to DU. Trying to figure out your name, what it means. I can come up with uppityperson Dec 2012 #73

He is not wrong. blackspade Dec 2012 #41

K&R DeSwiss Dec 2012 #43

Hurricanes in the last decade have been smacking us, right and left tavalon Dec 2012 #44

The unfortunate thing about hurricanes are they mostly damage Blue regions bluestate10 Dec 2012 #72

Why didn't he run? ecstatic Dec 2012 #49

Truth... Most republicans don't see the truth until they get smacked by it. gtar100 Dec 2012 #53

Obama is a direct refutation of Damon's thesis. Obamacare is a case in point. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2012 #55

I thought that Obama should have focused on the economy in his first term. amandabeech Dec 2012 #91

I agree with him JustAnotherGen Dec 2012 #56

Besides the environmental sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #58

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #59

I love this man! CrispyQ Dec 2012 #62

I say we let them have it. damnedifIknow Dec 2012 #64

We found this out following Howard Dean. It was the Democratic establishment Peregrine Took Dec 2012 #65

If he's still a Mass. state resident Autumn Colors Dec 2012 #68

Markey has that covered. sellitman Dec 2012 #83

worried about polls? They don't give a shit about what the American people want No Compromise Dec 2012 #75

sounds like u and Damon are in complete agreement LeftyLucy22 Dec 2012 #82

So Matt should run for office! n/t AmBlue Dec 2012 #76

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #81

thank you Mr. Damon Skittles Dec 2012 #84

Yep! Look at the relationships between how PUBLIC debt is financed & PRIVATE securities, ie, The Fed patrice Dec 2012 #88

Maybe this explains to why, apparently, the higher you go up in income brackets, the LESS capable patrice Dec 2012 #89