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Wiz Imp

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12. You sound exactly like Trump
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 12:25 AM
Thursday

and just like Trump, you have no idea what you are talking about. Powell did not assert that the data was being "fudged". He believes the estimates are being over-estimated. Completely different. He is not accusing anyone of intentionally changing numbers. He believes that the estimation process (which HAS NOT CHANGED) is not accurately capturing job movements.

For the record, In August 2024, Trump claimed

"MASSIVE SCANDAL!" he wrote. "The Harris-Biden Administration has been caught fraudulently manipulating Job Statistics to hide the true extent of the Economic Ruin they have inflicted upon America. New Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that the Administration PADDED THE NUMBERS with an extra 818,000 Jobs that DO NOT EXIST, AND NEVER DID."
By your very own logic he must have been telling the truth because the jobs numbers were legitimately revised downward (but by a slightly smaller 589,000). So apparently you believe the Biden administration "fudged" the data, right?

Of course you don't and they did not manipulate anything. But BLS definitely did overesitmate jobs during 2023 & 2024. However, contrary to what Trump claimed, the numbers wer not manipulated. What Powell said now is the equivalent of saying he believes the job numbers will be revised downward significantly this year as well when the benchmark is applied. Unlike Trump, he is NOT claiming the numbers were manipulated (and they haven't been). Powell is much smarter than to make an idiotic accusation like that. He knows that BLS has continued to produce honest numbers. The fact that the estimation process has not been real accurate lately has nothing to do with "fudging" the numbers.

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No effn doubt that ALL negative numbers are being fudged vapor2 Wednesday #1
Didn't Krasnov just hold an economic rally in the Poconos, gab13by13 Wednesday #2
BLS numbers have not been "fudged" and Jerome Powell did not Wiz Imp Thursday #15
Did you read the supplied link ? KS Toronado Thursday #20
Thank you. You're right, he did not. And a technical note from the BLS on the size of sampling error progree Thursday #22
Kick dalton99a Wednesday #3
Read an article on Yahoo the other day... Xolodno Wednesday #4
That is absolutely NOT what they said. Wiz Imp Thursday #14
Think we may have read two different articles. Xolodno Thursday #21
You may be right, but they both referred to the same rport from Challenger. Wiz Imp Thursday #25
You don't have to explain it to me. Xolodno Thursday #34
The article doesn't say that has anything to do with Trump EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #5
BLS has had since April to revise its numbers down, gab13by13 Wednesday #6
The same amount of time every other president does EdmondDantes_ Thursday #23
I don't remember when Biden was president that those numbers had to be lowered, gab13by13 Thursday #27
Because your memory isn't accurate is my guess EdmondDantes_ Thursday #31
Does this include the 911,000 downward revision over the period April 2024 through March 2025 progree Friday #35
and does this include the 589,000 downward benchmark revision from April 2023 thru March 2024? progree Friday #36
Wall St. Will listen to Powell, not Trump. Nt Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #7
This is why Powell is lowering interest rates, gab13by13 Wednesday #8
Every month, they re-state previous months' numbers... Mark.b2 Wednesday #9
You obviously know nothing about how sample based estimates are derived. Wiz Imp Thursday #13
The only thing I know is the quality of the estimates... Mark.b2 Thursday #19
The estimates are based on a relatively small statistical sample Wiz Imp Thursday #26
Thank you! Very interesting and helpful. Nt Mark.b2 Thursday #32
AND popsdenver Thursday #10
I was in post office yesterday to mail Christmas stuff tavernier Thursday #24
Nope popsdenver Thursday #33
The Fed lowers interest rates when the economy is doing badly. It's to stimulate the economy IronLionZion Thursday #11
You sound exactly like Trump Wiz Imp Thursday #12
I simply want you to explain one fact for me, gab13by13 Thursday #28
I wouldn't trust any figures Figarosmom Thursday #16
This is why I think a lot of magas are now quitting. C Moon Thursday #17
why does it say the US Skittles Thursday #18
I am not backing down, gab13by13 Thursday #29
Investors rely on the accuracy of these numbers lame54 Thursday #30
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