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In reply to the discussion: The Employment Numbers Are being Fudged, So Says Jerome Powell [View all]Wiz Imp
(8,560 posts)12. You sound exactly like Trump
and just like Trump, you have no idea what you are talking about. Powell did not assert that the data was being "fudged". He believes the estimates are being over-estimated. Completely different. He is not accusing anyone of intentionally changing numbers. He believes that the estimation process (which HAS NOT CHANGED) is not accurately capturing job movements.
For the record, In August 2024, Trump claimed
"MASSIVE SCANDAL!" he wrote. "The Harris-Biden Administration has been caught fraudulently manipulating Job Statistics to hide the true extent of the Economic Ruin they have inflicted upon America. New Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that the Administration PADDED THE NUMBERS with an extra 818,000 Jobs that DO NOT EXIST, AND NEVER DID."
By your very own logic he must have been telling the truth because the jobs numbers were legitimately revised downward (but by a slightly smaller 589,000). So apparently you believe the Biden administration "fudged" the data, right?
Of course you don't and they did not manipulate anything. But BLS definitely did overesitmate jobs during 2023 & 2024. However, contrary to what Trump claimed, the numbers wer not manipulated. What Powell said now is the equivalent of saying he believes the job numbers will be revised downward significantly this year as well when the benchmark is applied. Unlike Trump, he is NOT claiming the numbers were manipulated (and they haven't been). Powell is much smarter than to make an idiotic accusation like that. He knows that BLS has continued to produce honest numbers. The fact that the estimation process has not been real accurate lately has nothing to do with "fudging" the numbers.
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Thank you. You're right, he did not. And a technical note from the BLS on the size of sampling error
progree
Thursday
#22
I don't remember when Biden was president that those numbers had to be lowered,
gab13by13
Thursday
#27
Does this include the 911,000 downward revision over the period April 2024 through March 2025
progree
Friday
#35
and does this include the 589,000 downward benchmark revision from April 2023 thru March 2024?
progree
Friday
#36
The Fed lowers interest rates when the economy is doing badly. It's to stimulate the economy
IronLionZion
Thursday
#11