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7. Matt Stoller is an anti-Obama idiot
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:04 PM
Dec 2012

The FCC is considering an action, proposed in 2011, now postponed because of push back, but Stoller would have you believe that this is something Obama himself is proposing. Not only that, but his idiotic premise is that because Rupert Murdoch might do something as a result of this action, Obama is actively seeking to "strengthen" him. Preposterous.

Moyers: But the chairman of the FCC is President Obama’s own appointee, his own choice to head it. Why would the president be wanting to approve a greater concentration of media?

Aaron: Well, that’s the $64 million question. Barack Obama as a senator was one of the leading voices against the exact same rules that his FCC chairman is pushing forward now. He wrote op-eds, he co-sponsored legislation to throw out these exact same rules, legislation that passed in the Senate. And yet, his own FCC chairman, his appointee, is suddenly in a huge rush to get this deal done, and if these reports are to be believed, they’re going to try and do this by Christmas, before the end of the year.

http://billmoyers.com/2012/12/03/fcc-moves-towards-more-media-consolidation/


The good thing is that Stoller and his ilk, even with the consolidated media pushing the same line, couldn't help to elect Romney.

He spent the entire pre-election season declaring that electing Romney would be better than re-electing Obama.

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In terms of the Supreme Court itself, Obama’s track record is not actually that good. As a senator, Obama publicly chided liberals for demanding that Sen. Patrick Leahy block Sam Alito from the Supreme Court. Meanwhile, Obama-appointed Supreme Court Justice Sonya Sotomayor has in her career already ruled to limit access to abortion, and Elena Kagan’s stance is not yet clear. Arguing that Romney justices would overturn Roe v. Wade is a concession that Senate Democrats, as they did with Alito and Roberts, would allow an anti-choice justice through the Senate. More likely is that Romney, like Obama, simply does not care about abortion, but does care about the court’s business case rulings (the U.S. Chamber went undefeated last year). Romney has already said he won’t change abortion laws, and that all women should have access to contraception. He may be lying, but more likely is that he does not care and is being subjected to political pressure. But so is Obama, who is openly embracing abortion rights and contraception now that it is a political asset. In other words, what is moving women’s rights is not Obama or Romney, but the fact that a fierce political race has shown that women’s rights are popular. The lesson is not to support Obama, who will shelve women’s rights for another three years, but to continue making a strong case for women’s rights.

The Case for Voting Third Party

So, what is to be done? We have an election, and you probably have a vote. What should you do with it? I think it’s worth voting for a third party candidate, and I’ll explain why below. But first, let’s be honest about what voting for Obama means. This requires diving into something I actually detest, which is electoral analysis and the notion of what would a pragmatist do. I tend to find the slur that one need be pragmatic and not a purist condescending and dishonest; no one ever takes an action without a reason to do so. Life is compromise. Every person gets this from the first time he or she, as a kid, asks his or her dad for something his or her mom won’t give him. If you are taking action in politics, you have to assume that you are doing it because you want some sort of consequence from it. But even within the desiccated and corroded notion of what passes for democracy in 2012, the claims of the partisans to pragmatism are foolish. There are only five or six states that matter in this election; in the other 44 or 45, your vote on the presidential level doesn’t matter. It is as decorative as a vote for an “American Idol contestant.” So, unless you are in one of the few swing states that matters, a vote for Obama is simply an unabashed endorsement of his policies. But if you are in a swing state, then the question is, what should you do?

Now, and this is subtle, I don’t think the case against voting for Obama is airtight. If you are willing to argue that Obama, though he has imposed an authoritarian architecture on the American system, is still a better choice than Romney, fine. I can respect honest disagreement. Here’s why I disagree with that analysis. If the White House were a video game where the player was all that mattered, voting for Obama would probably be the most reasonable thing to do. Romney is more likely to attack Iran, which would be just horrific (though Obama might do so as well, we don’t really know). But video game policymaking is not how politics actually works — the people themselves, what they believe and what they don’t, can constrain political leaders. And under Obama, because there is now no one making the anti-torture argument, Americans have become more tolerant of torture, drones, war and authoritarianism in general. The case against Obama is that the people themselves will be better citizens under a Romney administration, distrusting him and placing constraints on his behavior the way they won’t on Obama. As a candidate, Obama promised a whole slew of civil liberties protections, lying the whole time. Obama has successfully organized the left part of the Democratic Party into a force that had rhetorically opposed war and civil liberties violations, but now cheerleads a weakened America too frightened to put Osama bin Laden on trial. We must fight this thuggish political culture Bush popularized, and Obama solidified in place.

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http://www.salon.com/2012/10/27/the_progressive_case_against_obama/



Cenk Uygur, host of Current TV’s “The Young Turks,” asks Matt Stoller, a fellow at the Roosevelt Institute, why the Obama administration hasn’t done more to challenge Wall Street and the big banks, and what Stoller thinks Mitt Romney would do if he were elected. Stoller answers that because Mitt Romney changes his positions so often, he might be easier to convince than Obama. “Barack Obama is a neo-liberal ideologue,” Stoller says. “He has a strong, rigid view on what is right, and he doesn’t move, evidence be damned.”

http://current.com/shows/viewpoint/videos/he-doesnt-move-evidence-be-damned-says-matt-stoller-of-obamas-approach-to-the-big-banks/


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Why do we even call them "liberals" anymore? villager Dec 2012 #1
There are exceptions. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #3
That's what's so sad, Jackpine -- they occupy the role that liberal-leaning Repubs did in the 70's villager Dec 2012 #4
Seems to be so. xchrom Dec 2012 #2
I remember, when it became clear that Obama opposed the Fairness Doctrine Enrique Dec 2012 #5
Saw that yesterday and was too disgusted to even think about it. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #6
Matt Stoller is an anti-Obama idiot ProSense Dec 2012 #7
If You Say So... And Thom Hartmann ??? WillyT Dec 2012 #9
I read it: ProSense Dec 2012 #10
Thom Hartmann hjas gone very CTish of late. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #65
REALLY ??? - Links Please !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #74
No links, listen to his show n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #79
Part Of Being An American... Is Addressing Our Grievances... WillyT Dec 2012 #80
WTF does that have to do with the fact that Thom Hartmann has gone all CTish? RomneyLies Dec 2012 #81
Well... When You Have An Un-abiding Respect For A Politician... This Is A Possible Outcome... WillyT Dec 2012 #83
I have no idea what you're talking about, so here's a picture of a bunny with a pancake on its head RomneyLies Dec 2012 #84
Well I am with you Pro Sense - truedelphi Dec 2012 #15
Editorial: The FCC blinks, for now, at media consolidation ProSense Dec 2012 #20
I took a look at this link earlier, shook my head, janx Dec 2012 #59
Funny how suddenly Matt Stoller, who used to be such a blind partisan, is now sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #88
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #91
The FCC has more things to worry about... Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #8
I wish more people understood the immense harm that was caused by media consolidation! bluethruandthru Dec 2012 #11
True, but ProSense Dec 2012 #12
My major concern is radio. bluethruandthru Dec 2012 #13
You are exactly right. Bozvotros Dec 2012 #19
Thanks Democrats. nt limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #14
Patrick Leahy and eight other Democrats have requested the FCC not to proceed pnwmom Dec 2012 #29
Actually no I was sarcastically thanking the Obama administration. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #43
Maybe you should thank the FCC because they do have a response to the claims. pnwmom Dec 2012 #69
FCC: thank you for showing up at work ? limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #70
Please tell me that there are still true liberals out there in politicsland somewhere. jillan Dec 2012 #16
Of course there are. merrily Dec 2012 #49
We're getting run off of DU Doctor_J Dec 2012 #72
Sad that DU is turning into a Moderate Republican or BLUE DOG site! DearHeart Dec 2012 #82
Only because the president is a moderate Republican Doctor_J Dec 2012 #85
Wrong is wrong, regardless of party! Well said! DearHeart Dec 2012 #87
All I have to say is Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #17
+1 limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #44
They are working on it. woo me with science Dec 2012 #67
Speaking of Occupy, Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #68
OMFG libodem Dec 2012 #18
How long before they set their sights on the internet? 1620rock Dec 2012 #21
Yep, exactly, and they already have. The internet will succumb to this too, it's just a matter RKP5637 Dec 2012 #42
The internets is their biggest threat right now. Last Stand Dec 2012 #75
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #77
Obama is nothing more than a cunning politician AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #22
He is a corporate Trojan Horse, woo me with science Dec 2012 #23
Sometimes it seems that the only difference between Democrats and Republicans AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #26
Yes. The two-party system is a scam now, a "good cop"/"bad cop" game, woo me with science Dec 2012 #30
Thanks For The Article... I think... WillyT Dec 2012 #34
I've thought about this since a long time ago AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #36
No, we can't afford it anymore. woo me with science Dec 2012 #40
Change? Yep, change is happening all of the time, but not the change many of us envisioned. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #45
Showing your ProSense Dec 2012 #27
Obamacare is pro-corporatist AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #31
It's ProSense Dec 2012 #39
I heard today that increasing taxes on incomes over $250K will be enough for one week. merrily Dec 2012 #51
Sadly, the SCOTUS took away the one leverage that the feds had to persuade states merrily Dec 2012 #54
Absolutely. That poster will defend anything this administration does, woo me with science Dec 2012 #41
You on the other hand ProSense Dec 2012 #46
Shhhhh! Don't tell people about the ACA deductable ...that they can't afford to pay. L0oniX Dec 2012 #50
You're not kidding. I'm paying $775/month in premiums liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #89
I opted out of this jury service. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #37
Survey says... L0oniX Dec 2012 #48
DU knows exactly what is going on, woo me with science Dec 2012 #53
True, but in the hands of other jurors, the post may have been hidden. merrily Dec 2012 #63
Woot Woot n/t Oilwellian Dec 2012 #61
Every stroke you take, you hate him, doncha. Got any better ideas? babylonsister Dec 2012 #76
This report is a month old. In fairness, you could have had included the FCC response. pnwmom Dec 2012 #24
Including that wouldn't allow for the appropriate amount of anti-Obama outrage to be generated...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #62
Exactly the kind of response you would expect from the FCC under its sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #92
well that ought to make the media completely obsolete, i mean who really listens to them now? No Compromise Dec 2012 #25
I've said before that Obama was not on our side FiveGoodMen Dec 2012 #28
In your opinion, but President Obama ProSense Dec 2012 #33
If you remember, Obama was for DOMA before he was against it. FiveGoodMen Dec 2012 #35
President Obama was never in a postition to reject DOMA. Only Clinton was, and he signed it. DOMA merrily Dec 2012 #56
He is a corporate Trojan Horse. woo me with science Dec 2012 #38
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service... countryjake Dec 2012 #60
And this little piggy went... Oilwellian Dec 2012 #66
NOT an excuse. An explanation: When so many people from across the full political spectrum are soooo patrice Dec 2012 #32
You can't fix corrupt. - K&R n/t DeSwiss Dec 2012 #47
Color me not remotely surprised...We plethoro Dec 2012 #52
Why in the world libodem Dec 2012 #55
Sources, people--sources. n/t janx Dec 2012 #57
updare this old IWW poster with some media/FCC icons @ the We Fool You level hmmm? lunasun Dec 2012 #58
Julius Genachowski was a lousy appointment, IMO. Read his wiki. merrily Dec 2012 #64
We should have heeded his words Doctor_J Dec 2012 #71
Me Too... How Many 'Headless Nails" Do We Have In This Administration ??? WillyT Dec 2012 #73
What choice do we have? malz Dec 2012 #78
No doubt it's a chess move. Octafish Dec 2012 #86
Which dimensional chess is it now? Look...I wanna be hopeful...but SHEESH..the news keeps getting KoKo Dec 2012 #90
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