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35. Does this include the 911,000 downward revision over the period April 2024 through March 2025
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 12:57 AM
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which was announced in September
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143526633

which includes 9 or 10 months under Biden's term depending on whether or not you include January 2025 in that (I do because Biden was president for 2/3 of the month, and more importantly, the survey that produces the payroll job numbers is conducted in the week that includes the 12th of the month -- that's well before the Inauguration date of January 2025).

They didn't break it down by month, and it's my understanding that they never will. They have some system where they target getting an accurate March 2025 total jobs number, and they don't use a month-by-month changes process to get there. So we will never know how much of the 911,000 revision occurred in the Biden months and how much in tRump's 2 months.

It looks like your link ( https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cesnaicsrev.htm ) is just the monthly revisions that occur each month for 2 months, for example a May number is revised in the June report, and again in the July report.

And so it doesn't include the annual revisions like the one that was announced in September and will be finalized (likely with a revision) and made official in February 2026 with the with the publication of the January 2026 Employment Situation news release.

Re: some new posts in the thread -- one may have all kinds of reasons to believe that tRump era numbers are being fudged. But it is FALSE to claim that Powell said the numbers are being fudged (or even implied that), at least based on the WSJ article in the OP (see my #22 ) . But unfortunately some people insist on misleading their fellow progressives.

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No effn doubt that ALL negative numbers are being fudged vapor2 Wednesday #1
Didn't Krasnov just hold an economic rally in the Poconos, gab13by13 Wednesday #2
BLS numbers have not been "fudged" and Jerome Powell did not Wiz Imp Thursday #15
Did you read the supplied link ? KS Toronado Thursday #20
Thank you. You're right, he did not. And a technical note from the BLS on the size of sampling error progree Thursday #22
Kick dalton99a Wednesday #3
Read an article on Yahoo the other day... Xolodno Wednesday #4
That is absolutely NOT what they said. Wiz Imp Thursday #14
Think we may have read two different articles. Xolodno Thursday #21
You may be right, but they both referred to the same rport from Challenger. Wiz Imp Thursday #25
You don't have to explain it to me. Xolodno Thursday #34
The article doesn't say that has anything to do with Trump EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #5
BLS has had since April to revise its numbers down, gab13by13 Wednesday #6
The same amount of time every other president does EdmondDantes_ Thursday #23
I don't remember when Biden was president that those numbers had to be lowered, gab13by13 Thursday #27
Because your memory isn't accurate is my guess EdmondDantes_ Thursday #31
Does this include the 911,000 downward revision over the period April 2024 through March 2025 progree Friday #35
and does this include the 589,000 downward benchmark revision from April 2023 thru March 2024? progree Friday #36
Wall St. Will listen to Powell, not Trump. Nt Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #7
This is why Powell is lowering interest rates, gab13by13 Wednesday #8
Every month, they re-state previous months' numbers... Mark.b2 Wednesday #9
You obviously know nothing about how sample based estimates are derived. Wiz Imp Thursday #13
The only thing I know is the quality of the estimates... Mark.b2 Thursday #19
The estimates are based on a relatively small statistical sample Wiz Imp Thursday #26
Thank you! Very interesting and helpful. Nt Mark.b2 Thursday #32
AND popsdenver Thursday #10
I was in post office yesterday to mail Christmas stuff tavernier Thursday #24
Nope popsdenver Thursday #33
The Fed lowers interest rates when the economy is doing badly. It's to stimulate the economy IronLionZion Thursday #11
You sound exactly like Trump Wiz Imp Thursday #12
I simply want you to explain one fact for me, gab13by13 Thursday #28
I wouldn't trust any figures Figarosmom Thursday #16
This is why I think a lot of magas are now quitting. C Moon Thursday #17
why does it say the US Skittles Thursday #18
I am not backing down, gab13by13 Thursday #29
Investors rely on the accuracy of these numbers lame54 Thursday #30
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