Serious questions for those who are convinced that Obama, Clinton, and Gore are not liberals.

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150. You really expect the establishment to be liberal?

The relationship between the left and the Democratic party (establishment liberals) is different than the relationship between the right and the Republican party because the establishment generally seeks to maintain the status quo or incrementally change it and liberalism seeks to radically change it.

I think when people get incensed by a Chris Hedges critique of Democrats they miss the part where he explains that the Democrats are the liberal establishment and supposed to function as a safety valve and implement piecemeal reforms.

One of his major issues is that he believes that the situation has become so dire that the piecemeal reforms that they are now advocating are woefully inadequate for the times we live in.

So the question is not are they liberal...but how liberal are they...

Now I'll answer your questions

1. The Progressive Caucus, much of the Cong. Black Caucus, and Bernie Sanders are more liberal than Obama. E

2. I don't think Barack Obama is the most liberal politician that could have been elected. I think Russ Feingold (formerly elected), Al Franken, or even Bernie Sanders could win if they made it through the primary. Franken and Sanders are able to make their cases very effectively and are excellent campaigners.

3. As many have said it depends on what position you start from.

4. The tea party may be unpalatable on a national level, but they seem to be doing pretty well on the state level. There is a difference between the tea party and the Left. Their voices are shrill AND their policies are unreasonable. I really don't see what unreasonable policies the left has put forth.