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In reply to the discussion: "As a conservative, I'm beginning to wonder: Are we the bad guys?" [View all]PATRICK
(12,335 posts)A bitterly ironic word used by JFK to describe the destiny of the two parties. Democrats from the beginning were more populist when that meant rural(!) the hoi poloi and not big money or land holding aristocrats. The liberal bent got destroyed by the slave states and the party split then into a long period of defeat. The liberal GOP, a radical minority of Abolitionists, the westerners, New England and burgeoning industry enjoyed their power and threw the blacks under the bus to get through a close election scandal. No one ever helped blacks transition to a fair and equal life either North or South or in any party. In 1912 the last of the truly liberal Republicans went socialist or Teddy Roosevelt. The GOP came in THIRD and the plutocrats never let the GOP do anything significant for liberals again. Democrats got the disaffected worker slaves of the North, started losing the dissatisfied, emotionally conservative rural vote. The GOP had the help of the heretofore yellow dog KKK to beat Al Smith, a Catholic gov from NY.
From Cleveland to Wilson to FDR, we had moderate champions against the increasing evils of big business, but a liberal trajectory while the GOP moderated their real base of plutocrats and bigots, hate or wealth blinded citizens, to get real numbers. Which of course reached their natural limit under Reagan. Conservatism no longer was fringe Goldwater or the John Birch Society, or closet maniac plutos. It was swept inevitably to fascism which works all too often when people suffer economically. From there to full dictatorship and imperial decline in madness and destruction of the social and physical infrastructure.
Liberal Dems got the bullets. Buried by money and hate and loss of moderate nerve they veered- and continue to veer- away from their historical bases to the tormented and under-served middle- or skip them entirely to get big money(Senator Wright for one). It used to be Dems fought back the intimidation of the slave workers with Tammany Hall tit-for-tat- and immigrants. Waves of numbers, mostly legit. Divisive social identity wars has only been a divisive mire compared to the large scale economic theft of hope for all citizens. By the few, by the few, and kill everyone else.
The GOP is dedicated to minority rule and fraud at all costs with deep dark pockets. The Dems are less than competent at protecting votes- to put it mildly. Or combating ritualistic slander and a false news media. For an incredibly long space of time! I could go along with this small digest of political "progress". Both parties are crap in comparison to several planet threatening crises when a literal handful of people have been handed the power to destroy. It would even be a moral victory though to finally consign the utterly ruined GOP to the designation of an outlawed party and the dustbin of whatever history we might survive.
The whole GOP has reached its ultimate sh*t, self- demonization, and sell-out top to bottom. Where is the best true and effective leadership of humanity? Anyone alive out there?