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Ilikepurple

(707 posts)
6. I believe this poll is three months old. Also, I'm wary of the wording.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 02:16 AM
Dec 2025

PeaceWave, I’m not saying that this isn’t an interesting development and I’m glad you made this post. I just have a few thoughts.
This is aimed at MSN and other news sources assumptions about the meaning of poll results. There is no argument for their headline and conclusion for the poll results. Nowhere did Gallup mention making cuts to Social Security and Medicare, only making significant changes to them. Their conclusion is in no way logically implied by Republican responses to their poll.

Should we reduce debt by “Making significant changes to the Social Security and Medicare programs to reduce their cost.”

You can argue that this necessarily means cuts in Social Security and Medicare, but this isn’t how a large number of people will understand it. Many will think that they can get the same benefits while saving the Federal government money through Republican Magic. Maybe they believe it will be by taking all the dead or undocumented off the rolls?Maybe, a few less people believe in Republican Magic than in the first two weeeks of September?

Earlier Gallup asked if voters would favor “Cutting spending for programs other than defense, Social Security and Medicare.” 72% of R said yes. Only 13% favored defense spending alone. Gallup could have asked if the respondents if they favored “cuts” in Social Security and Medicare rather than “significant changes”. They also could have done so when asking about Medicaid and food assistance (see in link below), but they didn’t. This would have given us a clearer idea of where the voters’ opinions lie. There are many who have been sold the idea that it’s Democratic Party ideas an inefficiencies that cause our deficits and are pretty sure that significant changes from the R party can reduce debt while maintaining the benefits they rely on. This failure of understanding is easy to see if you see the republican response to tax revenues. Increase taxes on rich-36% in favor. Increase revenue by making major changes to tax code-48%. I’m guessing the Republican respondents are not more in favor of increasing taxes on themselves over upper-income Americans, but here we are.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/696416/americans-favor-spending-cuts-taxes-cut-deficit.aspx

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We've fallen through the ice. Bread and Circuses Dec 2025 #1
Bullshit Meadowoak Dec 2025 #2
TY. Traitor is Stealing and Spending Our Cha Dec 2025 #8
Fact 18% of Dems support cuts should be concerning, or at least eye-opening. Not sure I trust results, but can't say Silent Type Dec 2025 #3
Some working and younger Americans don't think soc sec will be there for them Deminpenn Dec 2025 #9
That's what people were saying in the 70's and 80's... Wounded Bear Dec 2025 #24
CUT THE CRAP - RAISE THE CAP FalloutShelter Dec 2025 #26
But according to the poll, only 17% want to increase taxes. More than half don't. CrispyQ Dec 2025 #29
Too bad there are no other options... like defense cuts or a wealth tax. kysrsoze Dec 2025 #4
How about we cut THEIR healthcare. sheshe2 Dec 2025 #5
Federal elected representatives and senators get the same healthcare Deminpenn Dec 2025 #10
I believe this poll is three months old. Also, I'm wary of the wording. Ilikepurple Dec 2025 #6
And what do they mean by "significant changes"? calimary Dec 2025 #7
Please explain what elected Repiglicans mean by making significant changes to SS and Medicare? Autumn Dec 2025 #16
These findings are from Gallup's Sept. 2-16 poll, which was conducted amid fiscal disagreements between Republican and Celerity Dec 2025 #11
Thank you for posting the actual poll results. yardwork Dec 2025 #27
It's our fucking money! intheflow Dec 2025 #12
What most conservatives seem to miss genxlib Dec 2025 #13
GOP: please take my money away because that's a better idea than making Elon pay more of his wealth that got handed to Takket Dec 2025 #14
No surprise that 56% of elected repiglicans support cutting Social Security and Medicare. Autumn Dec 2025 #15
It wasn't elected Republicans and Democrats ITAL Dec 2025 #19
Interesting I click on the poll link and I saw Autumn Dec 2025 #25
Celerity posted the actual questions above. It's illuminating. yardwork Dec 2025 #28
Some people are starting biocube Dec 2025 #17
The "fiscal reality" is... Happy Hoosier Dec 2025 #18
Glorious Republicans kwolf68 Dec 2025 #20
Who did Rebl2 Dec 2025 #21
They might as well assemble at the cliff overlooking the sea and jump in. First the ACA, now this. Vinca Dec 2025 #22
All Congress has to do is remove the Earned Income Gross cap and SS and Medicare is solvent. ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2025 #23
This makes sense, as the workforce gets younger. CrispyQ Dec 2025 #30
Who in the hell are the 18% of democrats? Emile Dec 2025 #31
Bulllshit duckworth969 Dec 2025 #32
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