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In reply to the discussion: Slain woman predicted her own death [View all]glowing
(12,233 posts)Also, why is it that we continue to allow abusive people to walk among people when they are clearly a threat, especially to the object of their obsession. Why is this not seen as a mental instability? Why is the abuser not put into a mental health counseling program to help them with their problems. Locking them up is not going to change their mind or make them healthier to re-enter society... If anything, its going to give them time to think and plan out better ways of accomplishing their ultimate goal of killing the object of their obsession. Many times abusers were in abusive situations as a child and perpetuate the cycle of violence. (Many times its men abusing women, but this is not sacrosanct).
If the article about the original violent attack had read, "Assailant tries to run down a Pastor in parking Lot. Details within the article would read: "Suicide note found inside assailants vehicle. The shopper was Pastor Smith who was stocking up for the church's food pantry. The assailant was upset at the Pastor for aiding his ex-wife in leaving their marriage. Assailant has a past criminal history of violence toward his ex-spouse, along with a tendency for violence. The town is in shock and outrage. The D.A. will be pushing for the maximum charge in this case for attempted murder."
So, if the case wasn't about an abusive ex, who was threatening his ex-spouse, the full extent of the law would have most likely been thrown at the perp.. that's #1. #2. if this country treated women or "abusive" situations with couples more seriously, then perhaps we wouldn't see so many of these stalking, abusive, Judge "hands are tied", and a meaningless piece of paper that won't protect a person from someone who is intent on becoming violent and killing whom they said they are going to kill. #3, if we actually tried to treat abusive persons like they had a problem, then perhaps, they could be rehabilitated. Perhaps, if there were programs that were voluntary for those who would like to "fix" their violent ways AND a mandate to be in a program to try and "fix" the violent intentions and obsessions once they have been violent toward a S/O, then there might be a better way forward for all parties involved...at the very least, keep the violent, intent on harming ex-S/O off the streets and away from society at large would be better for all of us.
I don't think it should be up to the person who was abused to arm themselves to the teeth against a stalking, ex who is intent on harming them because society doesn't take violence toward women serious. Just look at what we do to women who have been raped with the "what were you wearing, what were you doing, did YOU put yourself in a nefarious situation?" AND then the whole "boys will be boys". The conversation should be how do we protect innocent people involved? How do we help them escape the violence and stigma of an abusive relationship? How do we stop the cycle of abuse that children see and experience and then grow up into the abuser themselves? Weapons do not help these violent domestic situations, its more likely to harm the family more. Also, the people being abused need to be councelled; especially children who are witness to the abuse and anger. Its not normal. Its not how loving people treat one another. Its not how people are supposed to treat anybody; especially those who are supposed to protect and guide you into adulthood.