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highplainsdem

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31. Can't be sure at this point what the main issue will be. But boosting the AI industry and pretending

Sun Dec 21, 2025, 08:16 PM

Dec 21

it can offer utopia can't be part of the platform when the tech lords want nothing short of subservience from politicians. Democrats' focus on AI needs to be on regulation. AI companies have to be brought under control, and their alliance with Trump can't be ignored. Telling people unregulated AI will help them will just push voters to hand more power to the AI industry and RW politicians.

Democrats can't ever offer tech lords the unregulated capitalism they want. Not without violating all liberal principles. The days of Silicon Valley CEOs and VCs supporting Democrats and being liberal, or mostly liberal, are over.

The Labour Party in the UK is apparently losing support as it tries to pander to AI companies. And those companies are not going to reward Labour with their support if they think they can get more concessions from the Tories or the Reform Party.

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Is it worth living forever if *everyone* does? [View all] meadowlander Dec 21 OP

I'm still mulling over my answers to the questions but thanks for the food for thought. live love laugh Dec 21 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author anciano Dec 21 #3

Yes, but what about crimes? Polybius Dec 21 #2

Yes, that's a great question too. With a long enough amount of time, is any crime forgivable? meadowlander Dec 21 #5

Not something most of us will have to worry about bucolic_frolic Dec 21 #4

Yes. Morbius Dec 21 #35

AI has played a major role in advances in Alzheimers treatment meadowlander Dec 21 #36

It seems to me that this is a question of how you live your life. CTyankee Dec 21 #6

That's a very moving painting. Thanks for sharing it. meadowlander Dec 21 #14

Although new technological innovations may extend the human lifespan anciano Dec 21 #7

I Turned 80 in 2025. That has to be one of "those years." MineralMan Dec 21 #8

I am personally embracing Eastern medicine as well as my family and most friends Iwasthere Dec 21 #18

I eat all kinds of processed, sugary junk Skittles Dec 22 #41

Bingo! hamsterjill Dec 22 #44

"Death is the price we pay for progress." -- Doctor Who artemisia1 Dec 21 #9

Even with death, it's amazing how hard it is to make a bad idea go away. meadowlander Dec 21 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Dec 21 #10

I don't think living forever would be good EdmondDantes_ Dec 21 #12

It depends. H2O Man Dec 21 #13

I see no reason to believe that AI will significantly extend human life in the next decade, even for the ultra-rich muriel_volestrangler Dec 21 #15

It's already being used to improve diagnostics meadowlander Dec 21 #17

FWIW, I believe that the natural limitations of existence, such as death and decay, anciano Dec 21 #21

There's absolutely no evidence that AI will "solve aging and death" ever, let alone in the near future. highplainsdem Dec 21 #16

I don't think we should go into the next election meadowlander Dec 21 #19

The AI industry is controlled by robber barons who have no interest in democracy. We will not find highplainsdem Dec 21 #20

AI is a tool, like the internet and the printing press. meadowlander Dec 21 #26

The pro-AI arguments that you're making - that it can't be stopped, that it's a race with China, that highplainsdem Dec 21 #28

So what's your plan for winning an election in that context? meadowlander Dec 21 #29

You didn't address this to me, but with all due respect anciano Dec 21 #30

Except that how we manage AI is how you improve peoples' daily lives meadowlander Dec 21 #32

Can't be sure at this point what the main issue will be. But boosting the AI industry and pretending highplainsdem Dec 21 #31

I didn't say that it would offer an utopia. meadowlander Dec 21 #34

wow. highplainsdem Dec 21 #37

This is just going in circles at this point but I'll give it one final go as simple as I can state it: meadowlander Dec 21 #38

You overestimate how much people like AI. Offering to get genAI the hell out of our devices and the highplainsdem Dec 21 #39

You would probably get the same survey numbers asking about TikTok or YouTube meadowlander Dec 22 #42

What you say here highplainsdem Dec 22 #43

The first to claim public option as part of platform will win uponit7771 Dec 21 #22

Or UBI. meadowlander Dec 21 #27

What will the new retirement age be? Social security kicks in at what, 100? 110? flvegan Dec 21 #23

I really don't think F47 is going to make it to your "event horizon" 0rganism Dec 21 #24

Who Wants to Live Forever Intractable Dec 21 #25

Of course it's worthwhile... WarGamer Dec 21 #33

Not unless it makes it hurt less BlueSpot Dec 21 #40

I have Rebl2 Dec 22 #45