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In reply to the discussion: Does the human race need a huge catharsis to straighten out its act? [View all]Emrys
(8,923 posts)22. What BS yourself. Nobody has to "worship" a celeb to be opposed to mendacious hate campaigns.
You know what's weird? Someone who's apparently consumed by hate about someone they''ll almost certainly never meet, who has at most an infinitesimal impact on their life circumstances, and doesn't even know they exist. Reddit, for instance, seems to be a magnet for such people. On DU, we generally try to reserve those sorts of emotions for the real bastards in this world who are seriously hurting others, and there's no shortage of them.
Since you seem not have bothered surveying the ruins of your threads from yesterday, I'll take the liberty of quoting in isolation FascismIsDeath's rebuttal and correction of your caricature of the study on the wealthy and flight ecological impacts you referred to, since you didn't deign to reply to him:
You should've actually read the study (that you didn't even bother linking to)
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-025-02325-x#Sec5
Here is a sentence in the "Discussion" section of the study that essentially summarizes everything I said..
"Wealth-based emissions comprise private consumption and investment in capital formation across production sectors that supply goods and services consumed by society. Recognizing the associated unequal warming contributions can inform policy interventions."
And a few paragraphs later...
"Similarly, the warming attributable to the investments of the wealthy underscores the need to realign financial flows to meet global climate goals32. This is particularly relevant for the wealthiest 1% and 0.1%, whose transboundary contributions to worsening local extremes arise primarily through investments, rather than consumption."
In other words, its EXACTLY what I said, governments bought and paid for by big money interests... they are saying the exact same thing in this study. The wealthy invested in big fossil fuels and big agriculture and big transportation and manufacturing technologies and they also used their wealth to buy off governments from standing in the way of them profiting from those investments which, as the study says "supply goods and services consumed by society", in other words.... all of us, continuing to buy their shit, mostly because we don't have another choice if we want to continue existing in the modern world.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20896465
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-025-02325-x#Sec5
Here is a sentence in the "Discussion" section of the study that essentially summarizes everything I said..
"Wealth-based emissions comprise private consumption and investment in capital formation across production sectors that supply goods and services consumed by society. Recognizing the associated unequal warming contributions can inform policy interventions."
And a few paragraphs later...
"Similarly, the warming attributable to the investments of the wealthy underscores the need to realign financial flows to meet global climate goals32. This is particularly relevant for the wealthiest 1% and 0.1%, whose transboundary contributions to worsening local extremes arise primarily through investments, rather than consumption."
In other words, its EXACTLY what I said, governments bought and paid for by big money interests... they are saying the exact same thing in this study. The wealthy invested in big fossil fuels and big agriculture and big transportation and manufacturing technologies and they also used their wealth to buy off governments from standing in the way of them profiting from those investments which, as the study says "supply goods and services consumed by society", in other words.... all of us, continuing to buy their shit, mostly because we don't have another choice if we want to continue existing in the modern world.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20896465
No, I can't be arsed going yet another round about the MAGA allegations because they're desperately thin, numerous people responded about those accusations and attempts at guilt by association of yours yesterday and I'd just be repeating what many of them said, and as the article I linked above points out, that sort of well-meaning engagement just ends up promoting the bot bilge anyway.
As someone who proclaimed several times yesterday that this is a discussion forum, you don't seem particularly interested in following up that discussion by actually reading and digesting what people bother to reply to you. One might almost be as well conversing with a bot.
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Does the human race need a huge catharsis to straighten out its act? [View all]
31st Street Bridge
23 hrs ago
OP
By the end of World War II we had nuclear weapons, relatively small nuclear weapons.
Jim__
23 hrs ago
#1
I think most of us would settle for your not spreading RW BS from bot farms on DU
Emrys
22 hrs ago
#15
Another attempt at dodging from you after your bravura performance yesterday. It'll fare as well.
Emrys
21 hrs ago
#19