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Scrivener7

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45. There is a small but vocal group here that consistently insists that we not "subject"
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 10:22 AM
Jan 2026

our elected leaders to feedback because, according to this small group, our Democratic leaders have no role to play in any event. This group insists that anyone who suggests Democrats do have a role to play is "bashing" or "attacking" them. The clear implication of their position is that Democratic leaders are useless whimps who can't do anything at all.

This is very disrespectful to our Democratic leaders. I wish they would stop.

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Will republicans? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #1
Will Democrats? Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #2
So blame democrats SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #3
I would hope that Bettie Jan 2026 #5
Little else they can do SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #6
How is expecting my leaders to speak and act for me in a way I support -- which is why they get my vote -- an attack? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2026 #7
Because they have no power despite your vote SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #9
You have a very narrow idea of what power is, I guess. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2026 #11
Their "power" (words) will be ridiculed as "fist-shaking" and "sternly written letters"... QueerDuck Jan 2026 #19
Exactly mcar Jan 2026 #120
Every time! Must be tradition by now. MorbidButterflyTat Jan 2026 #123
Tradition... habit... compulsion... obsession... fixation... monomania. (Pick one.) QueerDuck Jan 2026 #184
Yes, it's defined as controlling a branch of government SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #23
That is *one* definition of *one kind* of power, sure. I'll leave you to it. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2026 #29
Yes it's called legal power SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #38
Or some have no idea what power is. W_HAMILTON Jan 2026 #122
don't I fuckin know it WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2026 #135
No power doesn't mean no voice. CrispyQ Jan 2026 #71
So instead of holding republicans accountable SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #73
Apparently your definition of attack includes voicing disagreement with dem leadership. Mine doesn't. CrispyQ Jan 2026 #77
Yes it does SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #88
Huh Cirsium Jan 2026 #156
I'm calling for republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #157
It isn't Cirsium Jan 2026 #160
Yes I am calling for republicans to be held accountable SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #161
OK Cirsium Jan 2026 #163
What democrats have I attacked? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #164
Democrats right here Cirsium Jan 2026 #168
What democrats right here? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #170
I guess you win Cirsium Jan 2026 #174
It's not about winning SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #175
I think the politics on this are pretty simple for Democrats BannonsLiver Jan 2026 #177
I agree. yellow dahlia Jan 2026 #180
Trump and his fascists have waged illegal war against a sovereign nation mcar Jan 2026 #137
I don't understand why Ken Martin beat Martin O'Malley yellow dahlia Jan 2026 #179
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't choie Jan 2026 #79
So we shouldn't hold republicans accountable? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #84
Oh for CHRISSAKES! choie Jan 2026 #85
Yet some have spent a lot of time SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #89
Thank you. Joinfortmill Jan 2026 #101
No we don't know that mcar Jan 2026 #138
The Democratic leadership should hold the GOP accountable. PufPuf23 Jan 2026 #124
Exactly what should they be doing? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #126
The really sad thing for me is ...... walkingman Jan 2026 #133
And how should they be doing that? mcar Jan 2026 #139
I completely disagree JBTaurus83 Jan 2026 #129
Do they? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #148
I do understand your point JBTaurus83 Jan 2026 #178
Many have already SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #182
Both of my Democratic senators voted to confirm Rubio. How would you suggest giving feedback about that? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2026 #10
So blame a whole party SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #14
no no I was just asking about my two senators WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2026 #17
I don't know who your senators are SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #20
Klobuchar and Smith. Two Democrats who voted to confirm the nomination of Marco Rubio. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2026 #21
And how does that make them responsible SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #24
lmaoooooo you're right Democrats are helpless babies who should not be held accountable for anything WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2026 #25
Why are you against holding republicans accountable SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #39
How can I hold republicans accountable if I have no power over them? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2026 #50
So you don't believe in SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #57
No, I asked a different question that you're not answering. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2026 #61
I'm not required to answer anyone's question SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #62
lol having come full circle, I'll disembark here WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2026 #63
Well then SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #66
Will Republicans call this action illegal? WDLAL Jan 2026 #109
Call them and tell them what you want. I called mine tirebiter Jan 2026 #147
Do we have the same senators? CrispyQ Jan 2026 #74
Spoiler alert: All senators voted to confirm Rubio. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2026 #76
I was more upset that Hick voted for some of the more heinous ones & almost tied Fetterman. CrispyQ Jan 2026 #78
I don't think they believed he would sell his soul. He did. Joinfortmill Jan 2026 #104
So asking for a united voice of condemnation is an attack, now? Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #13
Or maybe focus on republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #16
Or maybe asking for a united voice of condemnation Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #22
It's constructing a purity test for democrats SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2026 #31
uh no... that's a really absurd take Takket Jan 2026 #41
Why not call out republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #51
The question asked was concerning the Democratic response. Gore1FL Jan 2026 #58
So we are not allowed to say SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #60
I literally suggested you make a thread on that topic. I have no say on what is allowed, but clearly, I encourage it. Gore1FL Jan 2026 #64
Maybe I will SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #68
As you should. nt Gore1FL Jan 2026 #69
Nobody is saying that except you. CrispyQ Jan 2026 #82
Sorry SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #92
Ditto. -nt CrispyQ Jan 2026 #132
Well, I'm not certain 'criticism' is what is being asked. Joinfortmill Jan 2026 #105
It's creating a purity test for democrats SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #107
So, are you hoping that Bettie Jan 2026 #93
No SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #94
I'm criticizing Republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #146
This +1000! mcar Jan 2026 #140
They can speak out against illegal actions Bettie Jan 2026 #37
There is a small but vocal group here that consistently insists that we not "subject" Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #45
There is a a group who consistently let republicans off the hook SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #72
I agree and Bettie Jan 2026 #102
I think so too. I think we have some trolls here who use this position as a Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #116
That's where I am as well Bettie Jan 2026 #142
Why not expend energy calling out republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #46
I think there's a rush of adrenaline that comes from these calls for purity... QueerDuck Jan 2026 #80
Exactly SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #90
Agree. Completely. MorbidButterflyTat Jan 2026 #131
Your whole interaction on this thread is bashing DU Democrats LuvLoogie Jan 2026 #96
No SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #97
Yes. It seems to be an attempt to silence requests for a concerted opposition to this illegal attack. Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #119
They are and have been all day! mcar Jan 2026 #144
Thread started pretty early in the morning Bettie Jan 2026 #150
I agree Grim Chieftain Jan 2026 #83
They're all over socials condemning it. CousinIT Jan 2026 #154
When I saw the news it was early in the day Bettie Jan 2026 #162
Yikes. Hope you feel better soon! CousinIT Jan 2026 #166
Auto accident on the 19th Bettie Jan 2026 #172
Well that sucks! Take care of yourself! CousinIT Jan 2026 #173
I don't see blame. I see someone asking if Democrats Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #8
Maybe we should be asking republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #12
So you don't believe we should be allowed to ask for a united voice of condemnation. Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #15
I believe that we should be holding republicans accountable SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #18
Again, asking for a united voice of opposition from the leaders we elected to an obiously Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #26
Let's hold republicans accountable SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #32
Again, stop implying our elected leaders are useless whimps who have no role to play. That's disrespectful. Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #34
Those are your words not mine. SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #42
No. They're very clearly your meaning. And again, no one blamed Democrats for anything. Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #49
No, it's your spin SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #53
No. It's the clear meaning of all your posts in this thread. And PS: we elect our Democratic Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #55
No the meaning of my posts is SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #65
We elect our Democratic leaders to specifically hold republicans accountable in situations like this. That's Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #75
So it's all on them SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #86
Again, how do you plan to make republicans hear you without going through the Democratic leaders Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #111
How about start by criticizing them SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #112
That lamppost you are yelling at is not going to do anything. Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #115
What's wrong with SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #117
To whom? To you? And what does that do? What is wrong with asking Democrats, whose Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #121
To everyone SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #125
"To everyone"? Really? How are you criticizing the republicans "to everyone" for this? Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #127
You weren't criticizing SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #128
You have no answer but I'll ask again: How are you criticizing republicans "to everyone" individually today in response Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #130
Why are you so hostile to criticizing Republicans? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #145
Strawman-ing like that is the last refuge of those who have no actual answer. But I'll ask again: Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #158
Why is criticizing republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #159
This is a straw man, as you know very well, and you keep repeating it because you have no answer. Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #165
So you support focusing on SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #167
Thank you for conceding that you have no answer, and that you are simply Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #169
I don't concede that we should be criticizing republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #171
You are correct. These types of things are ambiguous enough to leave a plausible "just asking questions" excuse... QueerDuck Jan 2026 #30
It always amazes me SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #36
It's a predictable pattern. I'm no longer amazed at who or when, but I'm always disappointed... QueerDuck Jan 2026 #40
No blame Maine Abu El Banat Jan 2026 #81
What is stopping you? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #91
I also have a vote Maine Abu El Banat Jan 2026 #113
Against republicans? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #118
Which party azureblue Jan 2026 #87
Have you gone to the halls of Congress to hang around and point at republicans and shout "I accuse you!"? Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #114
Rep Jim McGovern did. Torchlight Jan 2026 #4
anyone who doesn't should be primaried at the next election. Takket Jan 2026 #28
We don't know how this will pan out. If it results in a peaceful and rapid regime change for the Doodley Jan 2026 #67
Democrats should do whatever is needed to win elections JI7 Jan 2026 #33
MAGA will accuse Democrats of siding with a dictator who they will lie has killed millions of Americans. Doodley Jan 2026 #35
I agree... see my post #28. Our opposition to this has to be in support of the law, not Maduro. Takket Jan 2026 #44
The average maga guy can't tell the difference. Everything has to be personal with them Walleye Jan 2026 #54
Exactly. "Bad man gone. Trump did it! We love Trump!" That's all they need care about. Doodley Jan 2026 #70
Let's not take the bait RoseTrellis Jan 2026 #108
Maga will always accuse us of stuff. Doesn't matter what we've done. Walleye Jan 2026 #52
Do we want to win the midterms or not? Doodley Jan 2026 #59
Probably so. BannonsLiver Jan 2026 #110
Let's face it... BH liberal Jan 2026 #43
I want to know where ALL members of Congress stand on this attack on Venezuela. democrank Jan 2026 #47
They had better malaise Jan 2026 #48
Ummm....they already have? paleotn Jan 2026 #56
You know the war on Venezuela is nothing more Farmer-Rick Jan 2026 #95
Or he's become a SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #99
?? CrystalwolfLady Jan 2026 #98
Anyone have a link or source to the official justification or hte Venezuelan action? Tarc Jan 2026 #100
It was supposedly to protect Americans serving an arrest warrant. See this: highplainsdem Jan 2026 #103
While there seems to be little else Alliepoo Jan 2026 #106
You first! MorbidButterflyTat Jan 2026 #149
As always: never give the benefit of the doubt, assume the worst, stir up cynicism, blame, anger at Democrats. betsuni Jan 2026 #134
Exactly SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #153
Yes mcar Jan 2026 #136
If you're going to draw a line in the sand there had better be some serious consequences if it's crossed. BannonsLiver Jan 2026 #141
For today, a unified condemnation would be very nice. Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #143
Should be at the very least a vote on the war powers act ASAP but don't hold your breath. nt yaesu Jan 2026 #151
Good question RandySF Jan 2026 #152
Nice hit and run sarisataka Jan 2026 #155
I'm tired of this obsession with listening for the exact right words. RandySF Jan 2026 #176
Goldilocks waiting for just the right exact magic words purity test. betsuni Jan 2026 #181
We just illegally invaded another country. Hoping to hear EVERY Democrat say, "That was wrong" Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #185
WILL ANYONE? Skittles Jan 2026 #183
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