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84. I read the article hoping to get a different perspective on mt...
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 03:48 AM
Dec 2012

However I just didn't feel like he made a very good case. Not to say that she didn't perform actions, and have beliefs, that others wouldn't consider immoral in some way, but he really just barely scratches the surface, offering little information that really proves the point. His article has an aire of hopeless cynicism and negativity that I just don't feel was very convincing. He paints her as a charlatan who was in it for the money and fame, and whose purpose was poverty not the alleviation of suffering. I felt like the article is more about hitchen's antithesism then about Mother Theresa's actual life, work, and beliefs.

I am not a fan of mt simply because I know little about her. I took the liberty to include some info...


From wik...

Mother Teresa founded the Missionaries of Charity, a Roman Catholic religious congregation, which in 2012 consisted of over 4,500 sisters and is active in 133 countries. Members of the order must adhere to the vows of chastity, poverty and obedience, and the fourth vow, to give "Wholehearted and Free service to the poorest of the poor". The Missionaries of Charity at the time of her death had 610 missions in 123 countries including hospices and homes for people with HIV/AIDS, leprosy and tuberculosis; soup kitchens; children's and family counselling programmes; orphanages; and schools.

For over 45 years, she ministered to the poor, sick, orphaned, and dying, while guiding the Missionaries of Charity's expansion, first throughout India and then in other countries. Her beatification by Pope John Paul II following her death gave her the title "Blessed Teresa of Calcutta".

She was the recipient of numerous honours including the 1979 Nobel Peace Prize. She refused the conventional ceremonial banquet given to laureates, and asked that the $192,000 funds be given to the poor in India. Her awards include the first Pope John XXIII Peace Prize, the Philippines-based Ramon Magsaysay Award, the Pacem in Terris Award, an honorary Companion of the Order of Australia, the Order of Merit from both the United Kingdom and the United States, Albania's Golden Honour of the Nation, honorary degrees, the Balzan Prize, and the Albert Schweitzer International Prize amongst many others.

Mother Teresa stated that earthly rewards were important only if they helped her help the world's needy. When Mother Teresa received the Nobel Peace Prize, she was asked, "What can we do to promote world peace?" She answered "Go home and love your family." In her Nobel Lecture, she said: "Around the world, not only in the poor countries, but I found the poverty of the West so much more difficult to remove. When I pick up a person from the street, hungry, I give him a plate of rice, a piece of bread, I have satisfied. I have removed that hunger. But a person that is shut out, that feels unwanted, unloved, terrified, the person that has been thrown out from society—that poverty is so hurtable [sic] and so much, and I find that very difficult." She also singled out abortion as 'the greatest destroyer of peace in the world'.

During her lifetime, Mother Teresa was named 18 times in the yearly Gallup's most admired man and woman poll as one of the ten women around the world that Americans admired most. In 1999, a poll of Americans ranked her first in Gallup's List of Most Widely Admired People of the 20th Century. In that survey, she out-polled all other volunteered answers by a wide margin, and was in first place in all major demographic categories except the very young.

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And people wonder why I have the opinion I do about religion... n/t backscatter712 Dec 2012 #1
Not me. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #2
no, you're right gobama5962isi Dec 2012 #48
sprirituality is my thing, religious dogma not so much. nothing like a CELIBATE roguevalley Dec 2012 #60
+1000 Taverner Dec 2012 #83
Umm...wait a minute. yellerpup Dec 2012 #3
Again, I ask: why would any self respecting woman associate with this gutter religion? RainDog Dec 2012 #4
no. idea. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #6
It's sad RainDog Dec 2012 #8
Have you read Hitchens' piece on Mother Theresa? PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #10
Did he not like her, either? aquart Dec 2012 #30
Here's a snip PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #33
Yup, that's the Mother Teresa I despise. aquart Dec 2012 #36
Wow. She benefited from Republicans' S&L deregulation RainDog Dec 2012 #37
Wow, I knew she sucked, but I didn't realize she was THAT bad! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #71
I know. There are a lot of stories we didn't hear. Hitch talked about that... PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #72
I read the article hoping to get a different perspective on mt... Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #84
Wow. That was quite a read. Thanks. Prometheus Bound Dec 2012 #86
Why would any decent man do so? Mariana Dec 2012 #73
Good point. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #76
well, yes, of course RainDog Dec 2012 #88
Out of Touch Dirty Socialist Dec 2012 #5
WHY are there any women left in this patriarchal, woman-hating organization? niyad Dec 2012 #7
I have no answer here. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #12
They haven't died yet? MADem Dec 2012 #13
It's not just nuns - it's the women who participate as lay people RainDog Dec 2012 #38
They want to buy their way into heaven. MADem Dec 2012 #59
Reason number... Oh, I've already lost count of reasons why I left the Catholic Church. (n/t) richmwill Dec 2012 #9
How would he like it if people started punching out priests for giving bad advice? MADem Dec 2012 #11
Because that is LADY WORK LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS!! PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #15
I thought Catholics didn't read the Bible, though--that's for fundies. MADem Dec 2012 #29
Nothing like revealing your inner chauvinistic pig Rex Dec 2012 #14
choosing to remain Catholic = "hitting yourself" Deep13 Dec 2012 #16
If you're religious, may I suggest this response to misogynistic religious leaders: backscatter712 Dec 2012 #17
Ha! Another one for my collection ismnotwasm Dec 2012 #23
This speaks to one of the CORE components of nearly all Judeo-Christian religions. Eve tempted Adam PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #26
And Adam, like men ever since, admitted no responsibility for his actions. aquart Dec 2012 #35
I study the esoteric side of religions. That is, the symbolism involved & universal truths. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #45
You want symbolism? aquart Dec 2012 #87
She does tell the serpent they are not allowed to eat from the tree of knowledge. Prometheus Bound Dec 2012 #85
Remember my mom telling me we were all sinners because of eve abelenkpe Dec 2012 #41
"Who believe themselves to be self-sufficient"... fuck that guy. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #44
Excellent. That's a keeper. nt Chorophyll Dec 2012 #43
Yup, serving a cold meal made me deserve getting my ribs and nose broken. uppityperson Dec 2012 #18
:( PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #19
I was kinda thinking that and saying 'no' inside my head Rex Dec 2012 #20
Aw dammit. riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #22
It was a long long time ago, back when it wasn't acceptable to even report it. uppityperson Dec 2012 #25
bastard Deep13 Dec 2012 #28
Triple play!! Patriarchal religion, domestic abuse, AND its the woman's fault! riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #21
And this is dogma for any and all Catholics RainDog Dec 2012 #24
It speaks to one of the CORE components of nearly all Judeo-Christian religions. Eve tempted Adam. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #27
My first thought. Rex Dec 2012 #32
"The garden of inequality" Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #78
Monotheisms are sexist - Islam too RainDog Dec 2012 #34
I always thought that story was a bad translation, and the guy (I'm thinking it was a guy) who wrote MADem Dec 2012 #39
The entire canon of western lit is grounded in sexism RainDog Dec 2012 #50
It's not just western lit, either. MADem Dec 2012 #53
Ding ding ding ding ding!!!! The trifecta of evil! Initech Dec 2012 #56
When god has a dick and men were made in his image and likeness Warpy Dec 2012 #80
I'm so conflicted about this. surrealAmerican Dec 2012 #31
This sort of religion belongs on the trash heap of history RainDog Dec 2012 #40
That guy could probably list himself on Match.Com, E-Harmony and Xtian Mingle and never get a bite! MADem Dec 2012 #42
I'm always gratified when some schmuck actually says this stuff out loud. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #46
"look what you made me do!!" justabob Dec 2012 #47
This coming from a group who supported and protected Nazis during WWII, and.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #49
The truth is that most religions hate women malaise Dec 2012 #51
It's all about control RainDog Dec 2012 #52
That's the sad truth malaise Dec 2012 #54
The truth is that most MEN IN POWER hate women meow2u3 Dec 2012 #64
"they believe themselves to be self-sufficient" MissMillie Dec 2012 #55
Do I even need to ask if this priest will be punished for this? UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #57
he decided to take a vaca after this RainDog Dec 2012 #61
I'm sure the church will do the responsible thing and move him to another city. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #63
by whom? The church clearly has issues with women... PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #65
That probably earned him a promotion. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #66
no shit. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #68
Damn them uppity wimmin! AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #58
all three of the abrahamic religions are incredibly sexist and woman-hating. niyad Dec 2012 #62
Thanks, I will check it out. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #67
I just looked up this title Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #79
if your library is part of the interlibrary loan program, they should be able to find it for you niyad Dec 2012 #81
Go home, Catholic Church, you're drunk. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #69
Borat-esque, if Borat was a completely serious idiot priest. DirkGently Dec 2012 #70
What was Father Corsi wearing when he posted that? malz Dec 2012 #74
a cloak of misogyny. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #75
Ah, yes, a Good Christian malz Dec 2012 #77
will be calling the archbishop of this diocese (a total twit) tomorrow to express my views niyad Dec 2012 #82
He should just lunatica Dec 2012 #89
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