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ProSense

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38. No, but

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 03:13 PM

Dec 2012

"So do you think it's okay that Obama supports this bill?"

...are you surprised that he isn't going to veto it?

"If I pushed Feinstein to not vote for it when she supported it then by your logic that's as silly as wanting Obama to not sign it since they both support it. "

If? "Wanting Obama not to sign it" isn't pushing, it's wishing. The OP asked a question about the President vetoing a bill he supports and has given no indication that he plans to veto. Did you see a link or a number in the OP directing people to call the WH to ask him to veto the bill?

From the OP:

Sadly, judging by Obama's past record, he isn't going to send such a message. Rather, he will, much as he did with his support of the NDAA, send a message loud and clear that he doesn't give a rat's ass about our Constitutional rights, and that he completely willing to trample all over them.

This isn't about pushing for "Obama to not sign it." It's resignation.

"As to your 'brilliance' comment, it's just nonsensical. There was nothing incorrect with the statement you quoted."

Really? Where did I say the statement was "incorrect"?

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Will Obama do the right thing and veto this travesty of a bill? [View all] MadHound Dec 2012 OP

I fear he will sign it. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #1

He voted for it as Sen. Obama in 2008. Why not sign its reauthorization as President? leveymg Dec 2012 #51

whoops ...found it.... spanone Dec 2012 #2

Does ANY executive branch head (the President) give up power given to the executive branch kelly1mm Dec 2012 #3

I actually believe that Kucinich would have given up executive power if elected. cui bono Dec 2012 #9

Well put. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #27

absolutely out of the question Enrique Dec 2012 #4

He is okay to do it- you have all LukeFL Dec 2012 #33

Snark, right? CranialRectaLoopback Dec 2012 #52

Nope. Please take a trip down memory lane Catherina Dec 2012 #5

In addition to Harry Reid, John Kerry, and Whitehouse, which Democrats voted for this? Here's a list AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #6

Feinstein... Ugh. Good on Boxer though. cui bono Dec 2012 #10

Boxer abstained. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #15

One of my Senators, ProSense Dec 2012 #21

These same so-called Democratic senators... Oilwellian Dec 2012 #71

Yes. Now it's an issue of "How much" for the first go around. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #72

so why did you vote for him? arely staircase Dec 2012 #7

You'd rather we vote for Romney? What a childish post. cui bono Dec 2012 #11

i wasn't talking to you arely staircase Dec 2012 #17

With due respect, that's another childish post. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #23

Doesn't change that it was completely childish. Plus... cui bono Dec 2012 #26

I would be surprised to see a legitimate response. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #30

i am still waiting on one arely staircase Dec 2012 #36

You know neither and your implication appears to be just an attempt at being disruptive. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #41

no i do not support it arely staircase Dec 2012 #42

Probably because he is a million times better than the other guy. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #45

we can only speculate arely staircase Dec 2012 #47

You don't support it, eh? And when Obama signs it, I hope you will be ready to explain Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #46

i am not a single issue voter arely staircase Dec 2012 #48

You don't support it, so why then did you vote for Obama? cui bono Dec 2012 #54

i have answered that arely staircase Dec 2012 #55

Yes you have. In another post and not directly to me. cui bono Dec 2012 #57

link? arely staircase Dec 2012 #58

you should alert on my post if you think it is so disruptive arely staircase Dec 2012 #49

Please just leave me alone. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #60

you call me childish then want to be left alone? lol arely staircase Dec 2012 #61

your concern is noted nt arely staircase Dec 2012 #37

Your very short post, void of any coherent argument, seems to suggest that since we voted for him rhett o rick Dec 2012 #19

Incredible. BEFORE the election, you say, 'shut-up about your pony and get in line'. Marr Dec 2012 #50

lame limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #64

In addition to Al Franken, Leahy, Wyden, Harkin, and Durbin (*), who voted against it? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #8

Hey, wait a minute.... Boxer's not on either list. Hm... cui bono Dec 2012 #12

Boxer abstained, as did Lautenberg. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #14

Thank you. That's just as bad as voting for it imho. cui bono Dec 2012 #16

Agreed. Abstention = did not oppose. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #63

I am glad to see the great state of Washington was well represented. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #20

He won't veto it and he won't even issue a signing statement. Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #13

No, but ProSense Dec 2012 #18

So you are saying that Pres Obama wont do the right thing but it isnt his fault? rhett o rick Dec 2012 #22

No, I'm saying ProSense Dec 2012 #24

So do you think it's okay that Obama supports this bill? cui bono Dec 2012 #28

No, but ProSense Dec 2012 #38

But there's still time to push Obama to veto it. cui bono Dec 2012 #56

Well, you ProSense Dec 2012 #68

Petition: Repeal the unconstitutional NDAA and FISA ProSense Dec 2012 #69

You seem rhett o rick Dec 2012 #32

Why not? ProSense Dec 2012 #40

Snark away. It just didnt sound like you is all. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #44

To even have to ask the question is to answer it. forestpath Dec 2012 #25

No, he will sign it and it will go in Autumn Dec 2012 #29

He'll sign it, just like he has a number of... 99Forever Dec 2012 #31

I can see only one scenario in which Obama vetoes the bill. Jim Lane Dec 2012 #34

don't you emo-progs get it? whatever he does, is the right thing... KG Dec 2012 #35

what is an emo prog? arely staircase Dec 2012 #39

A name they think they are called because of a persecution complex. great white snark Dec 2012 #53

No. He's got to burnish his "tough on terra'" creds. He's a politican first and foremost. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #43

He needs to do these things to be re-elected green for victory Dec 2012 #59

Problem is an infected congress shintao Dec 2012 #62

He has to sign it because he is already using the spying powers. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #65

The interesting thing will be the crowing, the absolute CROWING the next... Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #66

I don't think the American people really like these laws. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #70

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