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hfojvt

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15. that is what I would like to see

Reply to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 03:21 PM

Dec 2012

but there is ONE huge problem with it.

What does the "legislation to bring taxes back down for middle incomes" actually say? What would Reid be proposing?

Becuase if he proposes, like Obama has, to bring back 78% of the Bush tax cuts. That proposal sucks. That's a proposal that I, MYSELF, would fillibuster if I was in the US Senate.

It is far too heavily tilted towards the rich.

But neither Obama, nor Reid, nor Polosi has proposed anything better.

Neither have newly elected Senators Baldwin and Warren, who are reputed to be very progressive.

Instead, the public is presented with two shitty choices.

Obama - keep 78% of the Bush tax cuts (or he indicated that he would sign a "compromise" bill keeping 90% of them)
Republicans - keep 100% of the Bush tax cuts

The correct answer for the good of the country is "none of the above".

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Obama Gives Republicans A Tough Ultimatum On Taxes [View all] arely staircase Dec 2012 OP

He's CAVIN....oh wait.... Skraxx Dec 2012 #1

sellout, sellout omg! arely staircase Dec 2012 #2

You forgot the 'he always wanted to gut Social Security' one... freshwest Dec 2012 #7

that's why his parents faked his birth certificate arely staircase Dec 2012 #12

LOL!!! Oh, and I have video... Pardon if you've seen it before... freshwest Dec 2012 #19

sadly i know people who would think that was arely staircase Dec 2012 #36

Just about all of the GOP and the CT crowd that claims they aren't GOP... freshwest Dec 2012 #43

This is so hilarious thanks for sharing kimbutgar Dec 2012 #47

Unfortunately, some of those nuts run some states on the mainland... freshwest Dec 2012 #57

naw it has advanced to, "he DESPERATELY wants to cut ss" Skittles Dec 2012 #20

that's what I say - wait hfojvt Dec 2012 #17

But It's Ok To Pre-emptively call him a caver? Skraxx Dec 2012 #22

considering that 2010 was a long time ago, it is not pre-emptive hfojvt Dec 2012 #29

If You Only Knew What Was In My Prayers Skraxx Dec 2012 #32

He did that in order to get unemployment benefits continued CitizenPatriot Dec 2012 #55

those are excuses for the surrender hfojvt Dec 2012 #61

Bottom Line,Elections do have Wellstone ruled Dec 2012 #3

great post arely staircase Dec 2012 #4

Unfortunately that cant happen until after Still Sensible Dec 2012 #5

nope arely staircase Dec 2012 #6

Are you sure? I'd like to be able to say that, but the only changes I saw from the 2010 census were freshwest Dec 2012 #10

oh yeah arely staircase Dec 2012 #11

Okay, I thought they were using the 2000 results - unfairly though - and got aways with it. freshwest Dec 2012 #18

Texas was an exception in that the Republicans took the House majority in 2002. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #44

Since the Democrats now have a supermajority in Texas - and they did it in 2003 - any chance freshwest Dec 2012 #59

Something must have been misreported someplace. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #63

Okay, that was misreported then, and I'll stop repeating it. There was a news story about it on freshwest Dec 2012 #65

I do have the numbers. They're burned in my brain actually. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #69

Wow, what I read was really off then. The GOP still holds the majority? Rats. Dirty GOP rat bastids. freshwest Dec 2012 #71

were are not in the majority, super or otherwise arely staircase Dec 2012 #72

that is correct ....congress can set standards ThomThom Dec 2012 #31

This congress is useless to effect any change for the better of the people. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #49

And 2014 and 2016 are ours to lose before that. freshwest Dec 2012 #9

Excellent post. freshwest Dec 2012 #8

I seem to remember Republicans having this thing about "up and down votes" a few years ago TrogL Dec 2012 #13

goose - gander and all arely staircase Dec 2012 #14

that is what I would like to see hfojvt Dec 2012 #15

it is the 250,000 and under cut arely staircase Dec 2012 #16

that is exactly what "keeping 78% of the Bush tax cuts" means hfojvt Dec 2012 #21

oh, ok. we just disagree on that, then. arely staircase Dec 2012 #28

you disagree on the facts, or on the definition of "rich"? hfojvt Dec 2012 #37

Yes, Move Those Goalposts, Now Obama Is Sellout Because Tax Cuts Up to $250k are Baaaaaad!!! Skraxx Dec 2012 #23

I have not moved any goalposts hfojvt Dec 2012 #24

You're Right, You Moved The Whole Stadium Skraxx Dec 2012 #27

and the team to another town arely staircase Dec 2012 #30

Indeed, Even Less Effective Than Mouse Fart In A Hurricane Skraxx Dec 2012 #33

but on the other hand hfojvt Dec 2012 #39

no, we defenders of the working class re-elected the president arely staircase Dec 2012 #42

and he is defending the working class hfojvt Dec 2012 #45

lol arely staircase Dec 2012 #48

keep trying hfojvt Dec 2012 #34

Me? Trying? Mocking You Is Easy Skraxx Dec 2012 #35

Proverbs 17: 5 hfojvt Dec 2012 #40

Fake You Has Fake Uncles? Skraxx Dec 2012 #41

YES!. bvar22 Dec 2012 #50

You Have No Facts, You Have Deliberate Distortion, Slurs, Innuendo, Character Assassination Skraxx Dec 2012 #51

Without specific cites, quotes, and counter arguments, bvar22 Dec 2012 #52

You Get Exactly The Treatment You Deserve Skraxx Dec 2012 #54

is that a direct quote hfojvt Dec 2012 #62

From Skraxx's Guide to the Internets Skraxx Dec 2012 #67

well dividends used to be taxed as ordinary income hfojvt Dec 2012 #56

How would you propose getting anything lower than the 250K per couple past congress? Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #58

Obama can lower that to ZERO by doing NOTHING hfojvt Dec 2012 #60

I think you make a good point Nevernose Dec 2012 #64

Too early to count chickens RedstDem Dec 2012 #25

I say go over ThomThom Dec 2012 #26

For the middle class, I understand it is a 4% increase notadmblnd Dec 2012 #38

Only make $30,000 anually but I'll be glad to pay more if these privileged parasites have to pay up judesedit Dec 2012 #46

booya! Is right.. Cha Dec 2012 #53

The Senate passed a bill several months ago to extend the tax cuts for the under 250k crowd MiniMe Dec 2012 #66

it is about to be done again arely staircase Dec 2012 #68

Either way... BanTheGOP Dec 2012 #70