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In reply to the discussion: I never imagined, 60,000 posts ago, that our country would be in so much trouble today. [View all]jfz9580m
(16,584 posts)However, Prof Lecun is one of the very few people who potentially has my support. I have never had to think strategically and I dislike it. It is for warriors and heroes, not frumpy catladies finally exasperated to the point of saying that Okay cut this shit out. I am taking targeted legal action deliberately, but with support.
And my guess is rabble like me have to make some concessions to the elite and I chose Lecun as someone who is a model for an ai scientist I can forgive because he is not an opportunistic coward or grifter (all the money and influence in the world wont work with awake rabble with deeply democratic instincts). I am a leftist, feminist etc.
But I never claimed to be a victim or misunderstood. But I can work in my field only when I dont have to agree with group decisions I will always consider garbage because they fucked me over.
I never went on to anyone elses turf grabbing what is not nailed down and then tried to disgracefully justify it. Nor did I refuse to take my lumps. But if I try my best, that doesnt mean you get to do whatever scrambling about constantly whining about new data that came in etc. You have to adapt and learn like some sort of person who is not a greasy, Machiavellian grifter.
This is one of the worst pieces of plunder I have ever seen.
And this is the type of brainless behavior I cannot excoriate enough, but more importantly point out that this wont work..predicting your way with half-baked models to a serene perfect harmony is nonsensical..The nightmare that is trying to think like this. It is myopic and has no understanding of why one does anything. This is lack of selfawareness and of impulse control:
https://ca.rollingstone.com/politics/more-tech-and-venture-capital-execs-are-coming-out-as-maga-believers/
It takes a point in time as the only that exists. And these technologies can enable that and herd and tune. But that thing that seems to matter so damn much to this type..being on the right side of griftery I mean history..That is a fundamentally flawed way to think. You can keep the real lessons without in an accelerating nightmare failing still to get what matters to you and why.
That woman Stepfanie Tyler or Jessica Krause..these are the confused, grifty types..one day it is dems and Hillary Clinton..the next it is Trump. This is stupid. I have been self cannibalizing (i.e. mine and my mom and dads) resources for 14.5 years because I am not a parasite and this must end.
I didnt mind leaving the US not out of Si Valleys grifty fake meritocracy, but anger at failure by the left to comprehend what diversity really is. Briahna Joy Gray is a real anti-racist. Race2dinner and Beverly DAngelo are hollow grifters. When you confuse the animal brain it leads to nazis like Musk and Thiel manipulating people better with their spooks or kayfabe counter spooks.
You have to have a sense of self..I did but ..well it is an unpopular one..which is not very fair..I do try to be nice except if you encroach into my home, devices or street. At that point I lose all sense of humor.
As for what you said about culture, what I notice with these people across the board who fall for this shit-they can hijack narratives about colonialism and imperialism as I see industrialists and politicians of all stripes try here, to posit culture as this superficial thing that is all surface-religion, dress etc while caving to or embracing the worst types of actual colonialism..the kind that is extorting you into surrendering your home or street using a permacrisis. I saw this start in 2009 is my earliest estimate. It is Google and Facebook and now the neo nazis of Musk Palantir..Locally Reliance group and Tata and various small creepy companies.
This will not end well. It will end in a draw best case or mutually assured destruction. I wont surrender my home to some vaguely fascistic and unexplained shit or accept bogus excuses.
I accept the limits of growth and so should they.
I am not a walking llm, but a specific unique human with unique experiences not a goddamn collective identity. My knowledge is superficial and that is as disgraceful as the rest of it..But I am not stupid or asleep at the wheel.
DUer CrispyQ had a graphic from indivisible I really liked. I dont have weapons or persuasion. I am not glamorous or brilliant. But I am not anyones pawn on a long enough timescale and I like how Lecun defines intelligence..There were reasons for the things I did or do. Sometimes I am wrong. Sometimes I am right. And even that is subjective of course. But I maintain that what I support is less unkind, cruel, grifty, thoughtless, wasteful, stressful, sleazy or best case kinda douchey than these guys with no concepts of the limits to growth or why anything works as it does. This shallow prediction bs is for morons on gambling sites..lol..every now and then something fits.
I have no idea if this is a Comrade Ogilvy invented by people with generally terrible ideas as a test of critical thinking.. ;-/. probably not..I look at some of these guys-Melvin Vopson, Bobby Azarian, Sabine Hossenfelder, Hashem Al-Ghaili, Derek Muller and Alex Stamos etc and go okay that looks like a confusing strategy or legitimate insanity or stupidity if real. This is a hellscape and ..
I am not a fan of stuff like that as opposed to less contempt for and faith in your fellow humans. But rarely..hmmmm..And unfairness is just a losing strategy.. that too with the levels of surveillance these idiots thought was a good idea..No exit for you either you morons..These are not forward thinking people..You cant intelligently design a future where your greasy rears need a billionaire bunker.
Even lame white collar people you thought could be bullied change. I did.
I can only predict what irks fellow rabble trying to do the decent thing not indecent rabble. If I wanted to accept Nope strategies, i would go to only Yasha Levine or Evgenia Kovda as there is a deep humanism and solidarity with your fellow humans there and that is the best bet for a less war-like future.
But back to this possible Comrade Ogilvy, I liked his take on neural darwinism:
https://www.peterputnam.org/
I am resigned to feeling stupid wrt reality. But I try to be forgiving of human nature. Therefore, I cannot agree that mockery (that too of people who are strugglng while you embolden billionaires and politicians) works and doesnt worsen human behavior on average.
I mock pseudo elites and their flunkies (ie Musk/Zuck/All of Google except maybe like 3 low level employees who I would support).
Levine has a sense of humor, but there is a deep humanism I respond to. Whereas this scrambling to be on the right side of some mobs present view, no.
My larger virtue signalling free point is that finally when things go to shit thanks to more and more inane solutionism, one day it comes for my home and street and small and strained real world network minus various unacceptable we candidates. The Gift of Fear. I decide who is we not tech oligarchs or politicians.
I liked this:
Its easy to say someone is wrong. The hard part is figuring out why they are right. Everyone is right. Everyone has some central insight, hard won by the consistency-making mechanism of the brain, built of past experiences, cast as motor predictions, a pattern that repeats, sustains itself in chaos. Our job is to look for it like gold, soft it into our own nervous systems, reconcile the resulting contradiction, becoming something new.
Even the creeps are a learning experience provided it results in better honed Me Too cases that end the rot. You learn how they confuse the head of the average bro, who should really grasp that women dont want the bros or the chads. Women want to be left alone much like men. And no -advertising conned you. Women are rarely horny and will not have sex with you or the Chads. True of most women. Some women like to breed. Some dont. Get a hobby and stop backing creeps who destroy our rights. Its really annoying. I didnt want to ruin an anotherwise less lousy rant but this constant drumbeat of Creep Rights!!! Feminists are not your enemies dudes. Musk is..yeesh. Even you have a mom you morons ;-/.
All this alarming oligarchy and technofascism and an incessant bro whine on top..
Everything i say or do is aimed at one thing only..peace and quiet in my home. I cannot function connected to this worthless, unscientific, undemocratic greedy nuisance. So mobs bleeding into reality..this cannot happen. But if it does, this is not a movie or a game. Cut this shit out and go back to fundamentals..why anything works instead of always pulling this shit. It gets old. I saw a needlesely rancorous argument between three people all of whom I like-Matt Stoller, Alec Karakatsanis and Briahna Joy Gray and my conclusion was that Google should be broken up and held accountable and Pichai probably charged. Dont side with Nazis Pichai. Same goes for Nadella, Zuckerberg and Wang. And dont side with misogynists if you are Lucy Guo or Priscilla Chan.
But that will change..The Stoller-Karakatsanis conflict..those are all decent people. Real leftists get over time faster than any manipulators that superficial culture wars distract from reality and dont go for slogans and catchphrases over a deeper understanding. Or that is my hope.
This is not academic for me. It is my whole life and when, how and why I agree or disagree.
Sorry highplainsdem, but though that was a confusing ramble (Trumps weaves have competition!) it represents my frustration with the way these sledgehammer this way-that way methods, with 200000 fucking microcultures and..
Sigh
life eh ;-/