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In reply to the discussion: Absolute Immunity... just so you know where we stand. The ICE agents have ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY. [View all]CrispyQ
(40,686 posts)26. There are more of us than there are of them.
There are a ton of videos out there showing how they turn tail & run when confronted by US citizens who know their rights & the rights of the persecuted.
I realize that's no guarantee of anything, but never forget how the media amplifies their voice & diminishes ours & also how they report all of Trump's lawsuits but never when the judges rule against him. I don't mean to lessen the difficulties we face, but it's not hopeless & there's always that old saying, this too shall pass. It will, & our duty is to continue to persevere to move our trajectory in a more positive direction.
I googled what to do if ICE shows up near you & you're a US citizen & here's the AI overview.
If you witness Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) activity involving someone else, you can act as a legal observer, document the incident, and assert that the person has a right to remain silent. Never physically interfere with the agents, as this could result in your arrest and endanger others.
Document and observe from a safe distance
>> Keep a safe, visible distance. You have the right to observe and record law enforcement activity in public spaces, but you must not interfere. This includes following any orders from agents to step back for safety reasons. Stay far enough away that officers do not perceive you as a threat.
>> Record the interaction. Use your phone or camera to record the incident. Filming visibly is recommended. Capture details such as:The names, badges, and vehicles of the agents involved.
The time and location.
Any conversations you can hear.
The context of the detention, including any street signs or landmarks.
Narrate and secure your footage. If possible, narrate the details you are observing in the recording. Once you finish, secure the footage by backing it up to encrypted cloud storage.
Remind others of their rights.
>> Announce the person's rights. You can loudly state that the person being questioned has the right to remain silent and does not have to answer questions about their immigration status.
>> Never give legal advice. You can inform people of their rights, but do not pretend to be a lawyer or offer legal advice. Instead, you can provide the phone number of a rapid response network or an immigration lawyer.
What to do if ICE is at someone's door. If ICE is at a neighbor's door, you can help by calmly and clearly asserting their rights from a safe, legal distance.
>> Remind them not to open the door. Shout to the person inside that they do not have to open the door unless the agents have a valid judicial warrant signed by a judge.
>> Distinguish warrants. Most ICE warrants are administrative, signed by an ICE official, and do not grant them authority to enter a home without consent. A valid judicial warrant must be issued and signed by a court judge.
>> Document and notify. Record the interaction and alert your local rapid response network or immigration defense organizations.
What not to do
>> Do not physically interfere. Never physically obstruct, touch, or resist an agent. Doing so can lead to your own arrest and may endanger others.
>> Do not lie. Providing false information to agents can have serious consequences. It is safer to remain silent.
>> Avoid posting sensitive information. Be cautious about livestreaming or posting identifying photos on social media, as it can expose the identities of vulnerable individuals.
Follow up after the incident.
>> Contact legal support. Notify your local rapid response network or an immigrant rights organization to report the incident and share your video and notes. They can help track the person who was detained.
>> Check the ICE detainee locator. If you know the person's name, you can use ICE's online detainee locator to help their family find them.
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Get a mobile recording device so you don't risk your phone. You can store them on your visor & clip them on your shirt. Learn some basic Spanish, even just "What is your name?" so if you see someone being ICEd you can ask them who they are & try to contact their family. Carry little PDFs of our Constitutional rights written in Spanish & other languages.
How to say What is your name in Spanish: ¿Cómo se llama? (koh-moh se yah-mah)
Bilingual rights cards in multiple languages are available at the first link below. PRINT CARD will take you to the English version. Click one of the many languages to go to that PDF.
https://www.nilc.org/resources/know-your-rights-card
Spanish version: https://www.nilc.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/rights-card.pdf
The link below has a good flyer, too, in both English & Spanish. It reminds that these rights apply to everyone, not just citizens or people here legally.
https://www.ilrc.org/community-resources/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-when-confronted-ice-flyer
Fuck these ICE bastards who can't even read or write & fuck all the other ones, too.
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Absolute Immunity... just so you know where we stand. The ICE agents have ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY. [View all]
mikelewis
Thursday
OP
You're right... but it's interesting to see how they reveal thier real agenda.
mikelewis
Thursday
#2
We don't even know why ICE goons were in that peaceful residential neighborhood
FakeNoose
Thursday
#3
Federal law is clear. Law Enforcement agents have "Qualified" immunity. NOT "absolute" immunity.
Wiz Imp
Thursday
#4
"which protects federal officers from state prosecution for charges involving enforcing federal law."
Ol Janx Spirit
Friday
#19
With a car having just passed her, and her trying to wave the truck that the ICE agents that tried to open her door...
Ol Janx Spirit
Friday
#21
What's "unprecedented", you asshole, is declaring that any federal agent has "absolute immunity"
AZJonnie
Thursday
#5
Many of Vance's outlandish claims are always couched in jabberwocky.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
Thursday
#6
Just listened to some prosecutor being interviewed. There is now law preventing state charges.
Swede
Thursday
#12
Then there is no need for a Fed investigation, right? In any case, they don't have state immunity.
themaguffin
Friday
#16
Well, honestly if they declare it an act of Terrorism... even the FBI is limited by Homeland Security.
mikelewis
Friday
#18
I would not want a "real terrorist" to be executed on the spot under these circumstances
delisen
Yesterday
#29
Police have qualified, not absolute, immunity. That has been the USSC standard for years.
in2herbs
Yesterday
#31