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In reply to the discussion: Judged now by loyalty to a political leader? No disagreement accepted. [View all]SunSeeker
(51,698 posts)163. It was not a "majority" that allowed him to "fix" or get legislation through, and you know it.
Yet you say he had two years of such a majority and that is just not the case. So you should be careful about how you phrase things. It is a false right wing talking point that I am tired of hearing...and it has no business on DU.
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Judged now by loyalty to a political leader? No disagreement accepted. [View all]
madfloridian
Dec 2012
OP
I want to make it clear....hubby and I worked for, donated to, and voted for Obama
madfloridian
Dec 2012
#1
A person who claims to be a Democrat, runs for office as a Democrat, and then betrays
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#106
"the exemptions part of the proposal" basically and drastically changes the intent and the
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#143
you're just debating manners, the message is the same. at some point, manners fail.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#87
And another goal very necessary. Fund public schools, stop taking resources from them
madfloridian
Dec 2012
#105
Recommend....thoughtful with a perspective that many of us here for long time can much appreciate!
KoKo
Dec 2012
#167
yeah, hyberbolic/strawman posts like that are probably going to get some pushback
arely staircase
Dec 2012
#69
He turned from a common man into a millionaire on the basis because of his role in government
limpyhobbler
Dec 2012
#76
He has done what it takes to stay in office, where he has been able to pass progressive legislation.
SunSeeker
Dec 2012
#133
The money for Social Security is in the Social Security trust fund. It is there. It will be enough
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#111
There is money that could be spent on for WPA program. There is plenty of money
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#112
The deficit is the least of our problems. We need to kick-start the economy. That may increase the
rhett o rick
Dec 2012
#162
So what's the alternative? The Republican plan of austerity? Is that what you recommend?
rhett o rick
Dec 2012
#201
The federal government can do it; after all, it by definition can't go broke
duffyduff
Dec 2012
#147
Yes, and it is on its way to doing that as our elected officials push the same
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#171
Also, I would NEVER denigrate the president or his policies in a discussion with a Repuke
Doctor_J
Dec 2012
#125
First, re-read the second paragraph. Boehner included it in his proposal, Obama
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#20
I thought he put it on the table when he created the Debt Commission ... or at least during the LAST
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#24
The poster's stance is the Presidents are omnipotent (except when that isn't convenient)
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#51
Yes, mad is right. PBO DID put SS on the table as I mentioned to you in another thread.
cui bono
Dec 2012
#21
If I let you bid on my special edition Babe ruth rookie card, does that mean I actually want you to
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#26
I hear you, Madfloridian. I know people who will die because of cuts. Somehow
roguevalley
Dec 2012
#98
corporatizing public schools is an abomination NO DEMOCRAT should support...period nt
msongs
Dec 2012
#5
I remember 1968, 1980 and 2000. Fracture means losing. Whiners wanting too much normally do too
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#9
Whiners like those who support public education? Whiners like the elderly?
madfloridian
Dec 2012
#18
if you don't win, you lose. 2000 whiners voted for Ralph Nader who directly caused the loss
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#34
Nader was behind the biggest voter stay home drive. 2000 had the least amount of voters
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#80
one good thing about Nader-He insured never will a 3rd party be more than a gnat
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#114
given that we are a mixture of everyone from obscenely wealthy to peopl living in
roguevalley
Dec 2012
#52
I would love that, Blue. Hugs, honey. Me- trying to find someone to clear my roof. :D
roguevalley
Dec 2012
#93
We should all realize that nothing gets accomplished if we don't push for it.
Curmudgeoness
Dec 2012
#46
I accidently stepped into that group only to be banned immediately and had a post hidden
rhett o rick
Dec 2012
#99
I am interested in seeing all of these requests for people to walk in lockstep.
grantcart
Dec 2012
#56
Good to see you, too! My sister teaches kindergarden. My two aunts are retired teachers.
Octafish
Dec 2012
#92
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Wondrous Kwanzaa, Happy New Year, Blue_In_AK!
Octafish
Dec 2012
#91
Clinton wasn't endorsing that sentiment, just stating what he saw as an unfortunate reality
bigtree
Dec 2012
#126
LIE: "...we in 2008 gave our party a majority to fix it. They had two years..."
SunSeeker
Dec 2012
#128
Dems under Bush didn't filibuster like the GOP does now--Dems believe in democracy.
SunSeeker
Dec 2012
#136
Does that include contributions from News Corp. employees, as Media Matters points out?
SunSeeker
Dec 2012
#212
It was not a "majority" that allowed him to "fix" or get legislation through, and you know it.
SunSeeker
Dec 2012
#163
Baiting is inserting the "he had 2 years and did nothing" RW meme into your OP.
SunSeeker
Dec 2012
#184
Nope, just the false ones the RW uses, like the "he had 2 years and did nothing" meme.
SunSeeker
Dec 2012
#183
That's the problem. I can't post about education without criticizing Obama...
madfloridian
Dec 2012
#195
I've never seen anyone here disagree with your position that school privatization is a bad idea.
SunSeeker
Dec 2012
#196
I'm really sorry your message for school reform gets nowhere even here
liberal_at_heart
Dec 2012
#169
The poster did not lie. They said majority and majority it was and generational high at that
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#206
Yes it was a lie. It was not "a majority to fix it"--that would have required 60 votes.
SunSeeker
Dec 2012
#209
You are the one stating a super majority, not the person you call a liar.
TheKentuckian
Jan 2013
#224
It was not "a majority" that allowed Dems to "fix" things; THAT was the lie.
SunSeeker
Jan 2013
#225
The DNC WAS working to get wins at local levels, but that was stopped at once in 2009.
madfloridian
Dec 2012
#161
If you think the President or any other Democrat is above criticism by Democrats
rhett o rick
Dec 2012
#164
Membership in a political party doesn't denote fealty or obedience to the party or its leaders.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2012
#153
Unfortunately,our educational system has been based on profits for a long time.Kochs donate & dictat
judesedit
Dec 2012
#154
116 recs! That's like one rec for every straw man and false victimization claim.
great white snark
Dec 2012
#223
How did those 3rd party ites who have reappeared voting for Nader in 2000 do for you in Florida?
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#227