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In reply to the discussion: Why did I do such a 180 on guns? [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)150. Pass a law banning and confiscating all firearms in our nation and watch what will happen. ...
Mexico has very strong gun laws and yet the Mexican drug cartels have fully automatic firearms which do not come from our nation.
AK-47
The AK-47 is a selective-fire, gas-operated 7.62×39mm assault rifle, first developed in the USSR by Mikhail Kalashnikov. It is officially known as Avtomat Kalashnikova (Russian: Автомат Калашникова. It is also known as a Kalashnikov, an "AK", or in Russian slang, Kalash
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To fire, the operator inserts a loaded magazine, pulls back and releases the charging handle, and then pulls the trigger. In semi-automatic, the firearm fires only once, requiring the trigger to be released and depressed again for the next shot. In full-automatic, the rifle continues to fire automatically cycling fresh rounds into the chamber, until the magazine is exhausted or pressure is released from the trigger. As each bullet travels through the barrel, a portion of the gases expanding behind it is diverted into the gas tube above the barrel, where it impacts the gas piston. The piston, in turn, is driven backward, pushing the bolt carrier, which causes the bolt to move backwards, ejecting the spent round, and chambering a new round when the recoil spring pushes it forward.[39]...emphasis added
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In Mexico, the AK-47 is known as "Cuerno de Chivo" (literally "Ram's Horn"and is one of the weapons of choice of Mexican drug cartels. It is sometimes mentioned in Mexican folk music lyrics.[81]...emphasis added
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
These gangs also have far more powerful weaponry that you can't buy in Mom and Pop gun stores in the U.S.
Mexicos Drug Lords Ramp Up Their Arsenals with RPGs
By Ioan Grillo / Mexico CityOct. 25, 20120
When a Mexican SWAT team stopped a stolen Cadillac van in the border city of Piedras Negras, it was not a surprise when they were greeted by a tirade of bullets as the criminals blasted and ran. But after they kicked open the trunk, the officers realized they could have been victims of more catastrophic firepower. The gunmen had been in possession of an arsenal of weapons that included three Soviet-made antitank rockets complete with an RPG-7 shoulder-fired launcher. If the criminals had got a rocket off, they could easily have blown the SWAT vehicle to pieces. RPG-7s can also take out helicopters and were used in the Black Hawk Down episode in Somalia in 1993.
The rockets, found on Saturday, are part of an increasingly destructive array of weaponry wielded by Mexican drug cartels, like the feared Zetas, in reaction to attacks on them by police and soldiers. While security forces have taken down several key cartel bosses this year, gunmen have struck back, setting off five car bombs, hundreds of fragmentation grenades and several shoulder-fired rockets. Soldiers even seized one homemade three-ton tank with a revolving gun turret. When Mexican marines on Oct. 7 claimed to have killed Zetas leader Heriberto Lazcano, he was also alleged to be found with an RPG-7. (Lazcanos corpse was stolen from the morgue, and the Zetas are now believed to be led by his No. 2, Miguel Treviño.)
http://world.time.com/2012/10/25/mexicos-drug-lords-ramp-up-their-arsenals-with-rpgs/
And yes, firearms would be much easier to smuggle than tons of marijuana.
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Frankly, I think a lot of them are buying weapons out of defiance, and not necessarily out of
Flatulo
Dec 2012
#218
Since damn near all of them are white yahoos, I hope the end up eating those guns.
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#219
That would be pretty funny, especially since I hear the AR-15s have been run up to $5k. nt
Flatulo
Dec 2012
#221
That one report sent me into such a depression. I wish there were a hell so that Lanza and his
Flatulo
Dec 2012
#211
You say, "the gun lobby is lying to you." Not to me. They, whoever they are, don't even contact me.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#2
When one list a rate, population is automatically taken into consideration.
GreenStormCloud
Dec 2012
#201
Are you nuts? Are you saying that someone by the name of "ted nugent" is a lobbyists?
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#101
nope. that is a number, i'll give you that. 50% is more like the number of illegal guns going around
farminator3000
Dec 2012
#20
A high percentage of those murders are a direct result of our failed War on Drugs. ...
spin
Dec 2012
#124
so what? who said anything about drugs? they don't shoot each other with drugs..spin off!
farminator3000
Dec 2012
#133
Pass a law banning and confiscating all firearms in our nation and watch what will happen. ...
spin
Dec 2012
#150
How many sock puppets do you have? No, supporting the troops means supporting what they do
Taverner
Dec 2012
#78
Ever see the 30 Rock where Liz dresses like a crazy homeless lady so everyone leaves her alone?
Taverner
Dec 2012
#63
"... But I do think most burglars want no part of a confrontation, armed or otherwise."
Flatulo
Dec 2012
#72
Yeah, that's the optimal outcome. Still, not one that I ever relish having to deal with. nt
Flatulo
Dec 2012
#89
Meh, still wouldn't want to spend my Saturday nite having a 9mm Black Talon picked out of my spine.
Flatulo
Dec 2012
#138
Your welcome. I also happen to believe that the statistics do not accurately reflect how often
Flatulo
Dec 2012
#209
Bravo on the marksmanship training, especially considering the circumstances under which you
Flatulo
Dec 2012
#215
If that killing is in the cause of self- defense, then it is both legally and morally justified.
Flatulo
Dec 2012
#44
Target shooting is fun, but too expensive unless your shooting .22 cal, or doing your own reloads.
Flatulo
Dec 2012
#139
Sure some people, including me, are concerned about maintaining a civil liberty even as...
aikoaiko
Dec 2012
#148
I'd read some arguments that whenever the Framers used "the People" in either the body
Flatulo
Dec 2012
#91
The current SCOTUS has ruled that the 2A is both an individual right as well as
Flatulo
Dec 2012
#187
I strongly disagree about the relative merits of the respective research.
Lizzie Poppet
Dec 2012
#19
BS post a link to some anti gun control thing that isn't a complete crock.
farminator3000
Dec 2012
#26
Supposedly Clinton's community policing efforts contributed meaningfully to the drop
Flatulo
Dec 2012
#129
I also wonder about the combination of our high demand and punitive penalties for drug use.
Flatulo
Dec 2012
#134
If you don't like being lied to, don't turn on FAUX noise.That's all they do and they're proud of it
judesedit
Dec 2012
#38
I feel you made a wise decision as firearms are not for everybody. I should point out ...
spin
Dec 2012
#116
The term 'jackbooted thugs' was invented by the left after Waco and Ruby Ridge and a few other
anchovy
Dec 2012
#131
I'm going to be charitable and assume you are young. The term was coined after the
anchovy
Dec 2012
#164
i remember it well, '95. no kent state. wrong wrong wrong and WRONG! no waco, no ruby nothing
farminator3000
Dec 2012
#183
K&R. The gun industry is an industry. Just like the tobacco industry. Just like the oil industry.
Chorophyll
Dec 2012
#47
People who believe their rights are being violated can be amazingly single minded and intense.
dkf
Dec 2012
#69
Most people realize that Constituttional rights are limited and regulated. Except the 2A folks.
yewberry
Dec 2012
#186
I'm starting to love this place where dissenting opinions are so very welcome.
anchovy
Dec 2012
#143
You know something?...I'm a REAL veteran. I swore to uphold the Constitution of
anchovy
Dec 2012
#144
you better not mess with bill, i think he's got ya on that one. maybe you were, but
farminator3000
Dec 2012
#147
maybe being more specific than 'guns' would allow you to form an argument
farminator3000
Dec 2012
#151
It's terribly difficult to imagine anyone more dedicated to "gun control" than
anchovy
Dec 2012
#152
Thank you. I still can't figure out how leaving people defenseless is a 'progressive' value.
anchovy
Dec 2012
#146
Weasels and liars!? Among a crowd that obsesses over implements of violence and dismisses...
villager
Dec 2012
#74
That one group of lobbiests should be allowed to, in effect, issue such a gag order is appalling.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Dec 2012
#105
Suicides, terroristic intimidation, violence, accidents, murder, bystander deaths
Care Acutely
Dec 2012
#113
I've always been creeped out by guns, and probably more inclined towards greater regulation of them.
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2012
#122
no such thing as justifiable homicide in Taverner's World but, there will be cookies and milk!
Tuesday Afternoon
Dec 2012
#199
where and when did I ever say such a thing? in my imagination I am flying away from this nonsense.
Tuesday Afternoon
Dec 2012
#203