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EarlG

(23,766 posts)
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 12:25 PM Jan 2026

Some idle thoughts on impeachment this Saturday morning [View all]

I've read a couple of stories recently about Dems either wanting to impeach Trump, or getting gunshy about impeaching Trump. To me, these stories seem like a trap.

First, this framing forces a narrative where Dems are either:

1) Pro-impeachment radical leftists with Trump Derangement Syndrome who would rather attack the president than pass bills to improve people's lives (which annoys moderates/independents), or...

2) Anti-impeachment wishy-washy milquetoasts who are fine ignoring the multitude of crimes committed by the Trump administration because they would rather suck up to moderates/independents than do the right thing (which annoys the liberal base of the party).

This narrative gives Democrats no room to maneuver, and allows for easy wedge-driving by Republican politicians, pundits, and of course all the foreign troll bots that flood social media services. The narrative is clear: either we do the radical leftist thing and impeach, only to (potentially) suffer "voter backlash" from moderates/independents, or we do the "spineless Dems" act and don't impeach, and (potentially) turn off lots of liberal base voters.

So how about an alternative approach?

It's clear to sane people that Trump is practically committing an impeachable offense per day at this point. Just this morning I read an article about how he is essentially selling pardons to criminals for $1 million per pardon. And that's just the latest in a string of outrageous offenses.

If/when Democrats retake the House this year, real investigations can start up again in earnest. Congress is supposed to provide oversight of the executive branch, and clearly that has not been happening since Trump was re-elected. Democrats will have an extremely strong mandate to do this, especially because mid-term elections are often about voters wanting the opposition party to act as a check against the party in power.

But it's also more than clear that impeachment itself is a dead end. Democrats already impeached Trump twice -- for good reason -- during his first term. In both cases the Senate failed to convict him. If they wouldn't convict him for January 6, there's no reason to think they would convict him now. He's shown that he wants to be an authoritarian dictator, and Republicans in the Senate have shown that they're fine with it.

There are other downsides to impeachment too. Last time around, Democrats impeached Trump quickly. The first impeachment took six weeks, the second took four weeks (Trump left office during the second impeachment). At the time, Democrats chose to focus on a handful of impeachable offenses, instead of taking a broader view. This meant that the trials were over and done with quickly, and the public moved on once it was clear that Trump had been acquitted.

I don't think it's a good idea to try the same thing again. I would not want to see a watered-down impeachment trial where Democrats decide once again, "Okay, these are the handful things we can DEFINITELY nail him on, so let's have a narrow focus and ignore the smaller stuff so we have a greater chance of success." Given that the Senate will absolutely fail to convict Trump, the chance of success is zero no matter what happens. This means that focusing on a few of the worst crimes will end up giving Trump the opportunity to exonerate himself on those crimes, and then simply sweep everything else under the rug. We've seen that movie before.

Then what to do?

If Democrats win the House, rather than coming up with a few reasons to impeach and then holding an impeachment trial, instead they should form an Impeachment Committee that is tasked with conducting a sweeping investigation to determine whether Donald Trump should be impeached, and if so, what for.

The job of this committee is not really to get us to a point where we actually impeach Trump. Instead, the point is to hold constant investigations of all the different unconstitutional actions that Trump could be impeached for. Start with DOGE and the illegal firings of federal workers, and look into what happened to all the confidential government data that Elon Musk and Big Balls walked away with, and move forward from there. Sending the military into the streets. Locking people up without due process. Sending legal immigrants to torture prisons against court orders. Demolishing the East Wing. Selling pardons. Politicizing the DOJ and ordering the prosecution of political opponents. Sending Venezuelan oil money to a bank account in Qatar. Failing to release the Epstein files. There is practically an unlimited supply of material, since the vast majority of things Trump has done in the past year have been unconstitutional and impeachable.

Televise these hearings daily -- take public testimony from star witnesses, and make a show of it. And make sure that each one is wrapped up fairly quickly -- say, within a week or two. Then as each mini-investigation is completed, release a report with all the evidence that says, "Here's something Trump could clearly be impeached for, and here are the receipts. We're adding this to the list of things to impeach Trump for."

And then just keep doing this, day after day, week after week. The idea is to set up a narrative similar to the Epstein narrative that is driving Republicans nuts at the moment -- they can't release the files because of what's in them, but by not releasing them they make people far more interested in what might be in them. Similarly, the job of the Impeachment Committee would be to maintain the narrative that impeachment is always looming just over the horizon, but before we can get there, we need to do another full investigation into yet another serious Trump crime.

Trump has benefitted politically from the fact that he has engaged in so much criminality and corruption, it's simply hard for people to get their heads around. We need to flip this on its head to politically devastate and cripple both Trump and the GOP in return. We already know that actually impeaching him will NEVER result in his removal, and would likely even end up as a political net negative for us. Instead, we use the Impeachment Committee to refocus the relatively short attention spans of Americans on a specific Trump crime, show how it is impeachable, then a week later move on to a different crime. Encourage popular podcasters to treat it like a crime drama with a new episode each week. If the media starts asking, "Are you ever going to impeach Trump?" reply, "We need to get to the bottom of all his crimes first! Don't you want us to gather all the evidence before proceeding?"

Without ever having to actually hold an impeachment trial, this could cement in people's minds that Trump is basically running a criminal operation out of the White House, and that he 100% should be impeached, even if an actual trial never happens. In addition, anyone who is still on board with Trump as all these crimes are exposed will be essentially aiding and abetting him, and the narrative will be that upstanding Americans need to drain that swamp at the earliest possible opportunity. Combined with a broad corruption reform campaign from Democrats, this could make life very difficult for Republicans going into 2028.

And while we're running up to the mid-terms this year, whenever media figures try to press Dems on, "Are you going to impeach Trump or not?" -- just so they can drive that wedge in our party -- Dems can sidestep the question with a united response: "We're definitely going to investigate all of Trump's crimes to determine whether impeachment is merited."

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I like how you think, my dear EarlG! CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2026 #1
This approach has my vote. lamp_shade Jan 2026 #2
Brilliant! mahina Jan 2026 #3
I think people are really, really tired of Trump leftstreet Jan 2026 #4
Agreed!! And except for Fox - and maybe CBS now - Tadpole Raisin Jan 2026 #5
Dems need to expose & investigate. poli-junkie Jan 2026 #6
Why not both? Fiendish Thingy Jan 2026 #7
My argument is that actually impeaching him again is a mistake EarlG Jan 2026 #15
I think a solid drubbing in the midterms might make #4 more likely Fiendish Thingy Jan 2026 #26
I Agree... It's a Dead End Waste of Precious Time Cha Jan 2026 #61
My thoughts are, TSF would pardon bluestarone Jan 2026 #23
Most excellent malaise Jan 2026 #8
In the meantime, pray our asses off that he croaks fast. 3Hotdogs Jan 2026 #9
I'm beginning to play Swan Lake music for my own morale RockCreek Jan 2026 #32
Yep! Scott Alan Swaggerty Jan 2026 #72
Agreed, as it's unlikely the Senate would convict. It all relies on winning the House in the midterms surfered Jan 2026 #10
Not sure if this is relevant orangecrush Jan 2026 #11
Great idea! highplainsdem Jan 2026 #12
If he allows the midterms. Blue Full Moon Jan 2026 #13
He doesn't have a say in the matter. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2026 #27
Great strategy...I can get behind it. MiHale Jan 2026 #14
Excellent post and suggestion. We could turn it into our Infrastructure Week. A new story every c-rational Jan 2026 #16
I like this approach. Wear them down, wear them out. "AGAIN, you've been screwed by Trump!" each time he does it. CTyankee Jan 2026 #18
It's almost tailor made for modern media EarlG Jan 2026 #21
Ding ding ding...Bingo. Flood he zone and do not stop. c-rational Jan 2026 #41
"Encourage popular podcasters to treat it like a crime drama with a new episode each week." liberalla Jan 2026 #44
Ooh, nice. Scott Alan Swaggerty Jan 2026 #75
Moscow Mitch leaves office next year ... we need to wait until he's gone FakeNoose Jan 2026 #17
His wife resigned on Jan 7th 3021, effective Jan 11th. RockCreek Jan 2026 #35
I like it. Sorta like the drip, drip, drip of water torture. Joinfortmill Jan 2026 #19
Dem economic plan, economic message, is immediately met with cries of: "Whatabout Impeachment!" "Whatabout ICE!" betsuni Jan 2026 #20
There would be nothing to stop Democrats from EarlG Jan 2026 #24
well-reasoned - thanks Earl. jmbar2 Jan 2026 #22
"It's clear to sane people that Trump is practically committing an impeachable offense per day at this point." mikelewis Jan 2026 #25
K&R spanone Jan 2026 #28
But would anyone besides MSNOW even cover it? milestogo Jan 2026 #29
"But would anyone besides MSNOW even cover it?" BumRushDaShow Jan 2026 #37
Yes! That will reach HUNDREDS of voters! Wednesdays Jan 2026 #62
We refuse to buy our own media because we finger-wag about that putting us "in a bubble" BumRushDaShow Jan 2026 #65
Good question! Scott Alan Swaggerty Jan 2026 #74
Good logic Earl G. And I didn't expect a conviction in the Senate, UNLESS no_hypocrisy Jan 2026 #30
A New Trick gfarber Jan 2026 #31
wow quaint Jan 2026 #39
I fully agree with this WestMichRad Jan 2026 #33
Democrats need to demonstrate they can lead in the right direction. So every time they speak BootinUp Jan 2026 #34
"Impeachment Committee that is tasked with conducting a sweeping investigation" BumRushDaShow Jan 2026 #36
Right I felt the J6 Committee was extremely effective. yellow dahlia Jan 2026 #57
Best idea I've heard in quite awhile. KS Toronado Jan 2026 #38
Either way, the Democratic Party continues to have a huge target and "KICK ME" sign on its back. Montauk6 Jan 2026 #40
Brilliant idea PLUS it's a great vehicle for recording all his/regime's crimes Wild blueberry Jan 2026 #42
Impeachment is a waste of time RetiredParatrooper Jan 2026 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Jan 2026 #45
This is great, as far as it goes... scipan Jan 2026 #46
I agree that it would need to be a multi-pronged effort EarlG Jan 2026 #49
I'm afraid I missed some of your replies. We're in agreement! Nt scipan Jan 2026 #51
Great OP BTW. Really got me thinking. I can picture it, and it's kinda beautiful. scipan Jan 2026 #54
Imagine some strong legislation to address thre Emoluments Caluse. yellow dahlia Jan 2026 #58
A Committee is a great idea mcar Jan 2026 #47
Great post (and thanks as always for the great site leadership). But, I still have the same question. OldBaldy1701E Jan 2026 #48
I've mentioned in a couple of places in my OP, and in replies EarlG Jan 2026 #50
You have a lot more faith in such a thing happening than I do, I guess. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jan 2026 #55
I love the strategy dickthegrouch Jan 2026 #52
I have no problem with Dems talking about impeachment... returnee Jan 2026 #53
Great idea. Imagine how many more crimes will be perpetrated, yellow dahlia Jan 2026 #56
I don't buy into accusations of TDS AZProgressive Jan 2026 #59
Agreed... AntiFascist Jan 2026 #60
Exactly! "Impeachment is a dead end." TygrBright Jan 2026 #63
Yes!!!!! gristy Jan 2026 #64
Sort of a Big Beautiful Impeachment Committee... Hugin Jan 2026 #66
K & R BobsYourUncle Jan 2026 #67
Plus... BobsYourUncle Jan 2026 #68
They should also investigate timms139 Jan 2026 #69
Absolutely! Scott Alan Swaggerty Jan 2026 #71
K&R Scott Alan Swaggerty Jan 2026 #70
A realistic approach... kentuck Jan 2026 #73
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